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Old 07-25-2016, 05:27 PM   #3701
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I hated the Nintendo stuff even though I loved the system. This stuff dated instantly since Super Nintendo either came out right before or right after this movie.
Lol you forgot a comment about the power glove 😜
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:05 PM   #3702
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I found Katie Cassidy to be the best thing about the remake. Should have been the lead, really.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:25 AM   #3703
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Let's get real, the original is a bonafide horror classic and each and every cash-in sequel is a load of unbridled dung. 6 & 7 benefit slightly from having a bit more budget and in the case of new nightmare - Wes Cravens direction but all in between are just horribly bad movies with Freddie becoming more of a joke with every entry
Freddy's Dead benefited from a big budget? It is arguably the most dated of them all, and New Nightmare had to make do with a moderate budget compared to some of the previous sequels, but Craven made every coin count with his outstanding direction.

Also the silly stuff started with part 3. Part 2 featured a Freddy that was even more terrifying than the one in the orignal.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:48 AM   #3704
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Wasn't he catchphrase heavy even by II? Plus the protagonist was crap
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:49 AM   #3705
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Wasn't he catchphrase heavy even by II? Plus the protagonist was crap
Leave Jesse alone.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:53 AM   #3706
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Leave Jesse alone.
Whatever happened to Mark Patton's documentary about ANOES 2?
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:04 AM   #3707
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I only like the uneven numbers in this series. 1, 3, 5.

New Nightmare was a huge disappointment. Dunno why people are so positive about it. Heather is a bad actress, her kid annoying as hell and Freddy's new make up atrocious. They could've done a lot more with the story in a story element too.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:08 AM   #3708
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Whatever happened to Mark Patton's documentary about ANOES 2?
Didn't he set up a Kickstarter campaign late last year? No idea if enough cash was raised to pursue the project, though.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:10 AM   #3709
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Freddy's 'comedic personality' didn't come into play until Dream Warriors. In fact the most iconic line from that film "Welcome to Prime time *****" was an improvised line by Robert England. Plus you figure by Elm Street 3 fans just wanted to see more of Krueger and how creative he could get with his kills in the dream world.

The Dream Master Freddy was more or less a full blown comedian. Just about every other scene he was in there was some sort of pun delivery.

"How sweet fresh meat", "Ah Rick you're such a little meatball" etc....

The Dream Child attempted to break that comedic sense to bring Freddy back to his darker scarier roots but fell short of expectations. Although to it's credit some of the kills where standouts, like the comic book scenes.

Freddy's Dead was pure and simple camp, and lousy at that.

New Nightmare obviously ignores every sequel and stands on it's own creative merit and is delightfully scary at moments. Much better send off for England before his final turn in Freddy vs Jason.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:28 AM   #3710
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I thought Freddys dead at least tried to address Kruegers backstory in a decent way which I quite liked and l liked Englund playing himself in the last one, but neither movie are very good

3 which people on here seem to like is just hideous
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Old 07-26-2016, 12:13 PM   #3711
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Freddy has ALWAYS delivered comical lines. The difference in lines like "I'm gonna split you in two!" (part 1) and "It's a boooooooy!!!" (part 5) is Robert's line delivery.

Freddy was designed to have a sinister sense of humor from the beginning. The only difference is the directors and Robert got a little loose with the line delivery and it took on a more cartoonish tone rather than sinister.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:06 PM   #3712
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I only like the uneven numbers in this series. 1, 3, 5.

New Nightmare was a huge disappointment. Dunno why people are so positive about it. Heather is a bad actress, her kid annoying as hell and Freddy's new make up atrocious. They could've done a lot more with the story in a story element too.
It's just a super cool concept and the last act is great, which makes people forgive its flaws. The first half is SO padded, and yes Heather is not great in it, but by the time the credits roll I think a lot of people forgive that.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:41 PM   #3713
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Disagree. Should be 1/2/7. Makes for a dark and intelligent trilogy. From 3 to 6 is just too goofy.
3 is too too goofy but 2 isn't? 2 is one of the goofiest films I've ever seen and gets more laughs out of me than most flat-out comedies.

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Jesse's constant high pitched screams
Exploding parakeets
A man getting killed via towel strikes to the ass
The family's random penis ornaments stuck to the wall
Two guys getting into a serious fight and instead of pummeling each other, start trying to rip the other's underwear off in the middle of a field
And this...

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Old 07-26-2016, 08:06 PM   #3714
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Jesse's constant high pitched screams
Exploding parakeets
A man getting killed via towel strikes to the ass
The family's random penis ornaments stuck to the wall
Two guys getting into a serious fight and instead of pummeling each other, start trying to rip the other's underwear off in the middle of a field
Penis ornaments? How have I never noticed this? Where in the film can I spot these ornaments? I'll keep my eyes open next time I marathon.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:13 PM   #3715
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3 is too too goofy but 2 isn't? 2 is one of the goofiest films I've ever seen and gets more laughs out of me than most flat-out comedies.

I mean:

Jesse's constant high pitched screams
Exploding parakeets
A man getting killed via towel strikes to the ass
The family's random penis ornaments stuck to the wall
Two guys getting into a serious fight and instead of pummeling each other, start trying to rip the other's underwear off in the middle of a field
And this...

Dance Scene From A Nightmare On Elm Street 2
It's not goofy per say, but they got a gay allegory into a massive mainstream horror film and that is a good way to downplay that and make the horror more extreme.
It's hardly new that this was noticed but it makes it my second favourite
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:41 PM   #3716
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Homosexual subtext? Rubbish!

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Old 07-26-2016, 10:48 PM   #3717
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i think that was just an attempt to embarrass him.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:43 PM   #3718
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Homosexual subtext? Rubbish!

Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is gayer than the Blue Oyster Bar.
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Wasn't he catchphrase heavy even by II? Plus the protagonist was crap
He talked more, but he was more angry, sinister and serious in part 2 than he was in the orignal which added another layer to Freddy.
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