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Old 02-04-2017, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default Excited about 'tricking out' my new 3D OLED this Spring.

Like alot of 3D fans, I snagged a remaining 2016 3D OLED recently.

I picked up a 65" C6 for $2997 and the curve doesn't bother me at all.

So this new TV has me excited about other upgrades shown at 2017 CES.

First off, I'm still using a PS3 as a solid all-purpose player.

But LG has a new player coming soon which does 3D/UHD/DV for $299.

http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-U...lu-ray-players

I'm also looking to upgrade my LG 4.1 optical soundbar to something more modern.

LG has a new Atmos soundbar with pop-up speakers that grabbed some attention at CES.

http://www.lg.com/us/home-audio/lg-S...less-sound-bar

Having Atmos would be phenomenal and I already have LG MusicFlow surround satellites.

I'm hoping this bar has three HDMI In for my devices, so I can get away from using optical.

I'm already kicking my old LG LED set to the living room and could kick the 4.1 soundbar too.

We'll see how this all shapes up over the next month or two...

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Old 02-15-2017, 03:21 PM   #2
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Recently watched Life of Pi 3D for the first time on the new OLED.

1.85 3D is always a joy, but man, this is one gorgeous disc and amazing movie.

The color, 3D, and detail were surreal. Great blacks really ground the image quality.

Next, I found a used copy of Lego Movie 3D for $14.99 at local Disc Replay.

I've seen the movie twice in 2D, but was still blown away by the brilliant 3D version.

There's very little cross-talk and the 3D is consistently strong for the entire runtime.

The camera placement in Lego Movie is phenomenal and designed with 3D in mind.

Both Life of Pi 3D and Lego Movie 3D are pure Demo and great movies too.

While both movies have been reissued as 4K HDR products, it's hard to imagine that anything could replace the amazing presentation that is the 3D version.
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Recently watched Life of Pi 3D for the first time on the new OLED.

1.85 3D is always a joy, but man, this is one gorgeous disc and amazing movie.

The color, 3D, and detail were surreal. Great blacks really ground the image quality.

Next, I found a used copy of Lego Movie 3D for $14.99 at local Disc Replay.

I've seen the movie twice in 2D, but was still blown away by the brilliant 3D version.

There's very little cross-talk and the 3D is consistently strong for the entire runtime.

The camera placement in Lego Movie is phenomenal and designed with 3D in mind.

Both Life of Pi 3D and Lego Movie 3D are pure Demo and great movies too.

While both movies have been reissued as 4K HDR products, it's hard to imagine that anything could replace the amazing presentation that is the 3D version.
Glad you are enjoying it so much.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:47 PM   #4
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Having said all that, I also wanted to sample what HDR brings to the table as well.

Sony has patched HDR into base PS4 units and a number of existing Sony games.

To that end, I tested Ratchet and Clank PS4 with the HDR patch installed.

My first impression of HDR was terrible, my TV looked like a Torch Mode joke.

But then I switched from the HDR Bright to HDR Standard mode and things improved.

After more play on HDR Standard, I lowered OLED Light to 90 for a less eye-searing image.

With those settings, I began to get used to the HDR look and can see some potential here.

Everything is darker and brighter at the same time, with noticably boosted color density.

Most of the Ratchet and Clank movie plays in the game, so I'm basically seeing what the movie would look like in HDR as well.

There are things that definitely jump out at you, like Clank's large green eyes in HDR.

The potential for HDR in games and animation looks promising, but I'm less sure about live-action movie content.

The application of HDR to existing movies, also seems like another matter all together.

What Sony's done here is interesting, because they've applied HDR to 1080p content.

Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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Having said all that, I also wanted to sample what HDR brings to the table as well.

Sony has patched HDR into base PS4 units and a number of existing Sony games.

To that end, I tested Ratchet and Clank PS4 with the HDR patch installed.

My first impression of HDR was terrible, my TV looked like a Torch Mode joke.

But then I switched from the HDR Bright to HDR Standard mode and things improved.

After more play on HDR Standard, I lowered OLED Light to 90 for a less eye-searing image.

With those settings, I began to get used to the HDR look and can see some potential here.

Everything is darker and brighter at the same time, with noticably boosted color density.

Most of the Ratchet and Clank movie plays in the game, so I'm basically seeing what the movie would look like in HDR as well.

There are things that definitely jump out at you, like Clank's large green eyes in HDR.

The potential for HDR in games and animation looks promising, but I'm less sure about live-action movie content.

The application of HDR to existing movies, also seems like another matter all together.

What Sony's done here is interesting, because they've applied HDR to 1080p content.

Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
It does.

I'm not impressed with this HFR business either. I like my films with motion blur!
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:42 PM   #6
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Moving on, I recently found myself in the unlikely position of buying a 2D-only 4K UHD movie.

The situation was a little specific though and probably not something I'm going to do alot.

I was looking for a copy of John Wick and in my area most were gone or pricey.

BB got new copies in for $14.99 with no slips and movie cash for Chapter Two in theaters.

With 4K right around the corner, I decided to wait a week or two and pay $1 more for UHD.

I'm not particularly bullish on UHD, but for $1 more it would be silly to buy the basic BD.

LG's universal player should be out soon, hopefully for $299:

http://hometheaterreview.com/lg-unve...yer-the-up970/
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Moving on, I recently found myself in the unlikely position of buying a 2D-only 4K UHD movie.

The situation was a little specific though and probably not something I'm going to do alot.

I was looking for a copy of John Wick and in my area most were gone or pricey.

BB got new copies in for $14.99 with no slips and movie cash for Chapter Two in theaters.

With 4K right around the corner, I decided to wait a week or two and pay $1 more for UHD.

I'm not particularly bullish on UHD, but for $1 more it would be silly to buy the basic BD.

LG's universal player should be out soon, hopefully for $299:

http://hometheaterreview.com/lg-unve...yer-the-up970/
Slow down dude. You haven't even acknowledged my post and you are moving on to something else lol.
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Everything I typed out was initially going to be one post, but then I split it up to better isolate the issues.

The fact that HDR can be applied to HD content on an existing player is interesting because HDR is the part of UHD that gets praised most often (not so much the rez or even color depth).

But it's not clear how Sony achieved this over HDMI 1.4 in the PS4 specifically.

As far as HFR goes, I don't own Billy Lynn yet and the 3D disc only runs at 24fps anyway.

It pretty clear that with 2017, we've entered into a much more complicated home video environment.

You now have to juggle 2D/3D plus HD/UHD plus SDR/HDR/DV and 24fps vs HFR.
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OK, the LG 970 4K/3D player is out and I was able to snag the only one at my Best Buy.

The player loads fast for all types of discs (even 4K ones which I expected to be slower).

I own all the Sony combo releases so that was basis for initial comparison.

I'm starting out with comparisons of Passengers 4K, but will check others too.

First off, the regular BD video performance of the 970 for HD/3D seem normal enough.

In other words, it's not dramatically better just for BDs compared to my PS3.

That isn't a slam on the 970, it just means the PS3 is a solid BD/3D player.

Next, I placed the 4K/HDR disc in the 970 and ran Passengers BD in PS3.

Not surprisingly​, the 4K does have some extra fine details but it's​ not life changing.

When Arora wakes up, you can see fine wrinkles between her eye brows in 4K.

In HD, those wrinkles are harder to see and other small features are less visible.

The HDR colors are also slightly more evocative due to more Bit-depth in UHD (?).

The highlights are also brighter in HDR, but sometimes almost uncomfortably so.

But it's not a complete blowout in HD vs. 4K comparisons, blacks are better in HD.

On BD/SDR, black is really black, whereas in 4K/UHD blacks​ are much less inky.

Here's a quote from the 4K review of the new Underworld movie:

"As with most UHD discs, blacks tend to waffle a bit, pushing noticeably more pale here, but not significantly so. There's a little more breathing room and separation between darkened objects here, but the movie loses some of its impactful dark-end depth as a result, so the overall verdict is that the UHD is better in some ways (detailing, arguably color) and arguably worse in others (black level depth)."

After an extended look at HD vs. 4K, I went back to check out Passengers in 3D.

Long story short, I still prefer 3D by far. Better blacks, good colors, and great depth.

3D discs also may have better encodes with higher bit rates than 2D BDs as well.

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Old 04-14-2017, 05:08 PM   #10
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There's​ another feature with the 970 that bears mentioning...

Apparently my 2016 C6 can't do HDR in YouTube due to a missing chip.

The 970 player apparently has this new chip and can do HDR in YouTube.

Depending on how big a deal that is to LG OLED owners, I figured it was worth a mention.


Update: I tested out the YouTube HDR and sure enough it works on the 970 app.

I always wondered why videos that were labeled HDR never played in HDR on my C6.

I wish this just worked on my TV though, the 970 doesn't seems to be as good with WiFi.

The videos were pausing to Load here and there, something that rarely happens on the C6.

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