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Old 07-14-2018, 11:00 AM   #3701
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I am however curious as I was urged to look in to it further. Apparently the 2016 OLED only has 100mbps network card. What this means is if you have a wired connection the fastest speed that this card will allow is 100Mbps as I understand it. In most cases wired is the fastest but maybe not with this panel. I did a speed test and my Wi-Fi reaches speeds up to 130Mbps Because it is not limited by the card. Am I correct in my understanding of this? Do the speed gains made by wireless trump the benefits of a wired connection? Thanks for any clarification
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Old 07-14-2018, 01:32 PM   #3702
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I'd pm Robert Zohn. He may have answer for you or at least get one from LG.
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Old 07-14-2018, 01:47 PM   #3703
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My TV is 3 inches away from modem
Your wi-fi signal (a radio wave) can work in weird ways though. A device that is 30 feet away may have better reception of the signal than something 3 inches away.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:11 PM   #3704
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Question,

When you play Dolby Vision on an LG OLED (I have the C8) what does the TV’s info say in the top left corner when I out press the info button to bring up the resolution and all the other info?

I known when you play HDR you see the BT2020 with HDR and when I play Dolby Vision it does not have the BT2020 but does say Dolby Vision.

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Old 07-16-2018, 09:42 AM   #3705
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Your wi-fi signal (a radio wave) can work in weird ways though. A device that is 30 feet away may have better reception of the signal than something 3 inches away.
My 5Ghz band reads higher DL speed than my wired connection. This is due to the LG Oled TV network card which is a 10/100 card, and that means no matter what speed your internet service is providing, your wired connection will be limited to no more (and usually less) than 100Mbps DL speed, whereas 5Ghz band can go higher because not limited by network card (but still lower than if your device/TV had a 10/100/1000 network card).
A gigabit Ethernet connection (10/100/1000) like the one in Nvidia Shield or Xbox would be ideal. Hopefully LG will start using updated network cards soon.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:49 PM   #3706
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I am however curious as I was urged to look in to it further. Apparently the 2016 OLED only has 100mbps network card. What this means is if you have a wired connection the fastest speed that this card will allow is 100Mbps as I understand it. In most cases wired is the fastest but maybe not with this panel. I did a speed test and my Wi-Fi reaches speeds up to 130Mbps Because it is not limited by the card. Am I correct in my understanding of this? Do the speed gains made by wireless trump the benefits of a wired connection? Thanks for any clarification
Minimum recommended speed for streaming 4K is 25mbps. So the 10/100mbps card in the LG should be fine for now. I generally prefer wired as its more stable and doesn't get interference or dropped packets like wireless does.
But I don't think it matters until companies start streaming full 4K uncompressed video and uncompressed HD audio that requires more than 100mbps.
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:03 PM   #3707
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Minimum recommended speed for streaming 4K is 25mbps. So the 10/100mbps card in the LG should be fine for now. I generally prefer wired as its more stable and doesn't get interference or dropped packets like wireless does.
But I don't think it matters until companies start streaming full 4K uncompressed video and uncompressed HD audio that requires more than 100mbps.
If you have a Plex server/client you will need more than 25mbps for direct playing 4K content
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:11 AM   #3708
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If you have a Plex server/client you will need more than 25mbps for direct playing 4K content
Right. My YouTube wonít hold 4K through webOS unless itís at least 40MBS
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:59 AM   #3709
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Right. My YouTube wonít hold 4K through webOS unless itís at least 40MBS
Yes, YouTube is another example of 4K HDR streaming that requires over 25Mbps.
The point of the matter is that LG should start implementing 10/100/1000 network cards in their Oled Tvs now that we have streaming services available of well above 100Mbps. These are the best TV sets in the world right?
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM   #3710
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I posted earlier in this thread about my E6 having audio lag when playing Dolby Vision content from my Oppo player. Not sure whether it was the recent firmware update on the Oppo or the TV, but it's now fixed.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:09 PM   #3711
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Yes, YouTube is another example of 4K HDR streaming that requires over 25Mbps.
The point of the matter is that LG should start implementing 10/100/1000 network cards in their Oled Tvs now that we have streaming services available of well above 100Mbps. These are the best TV sets in the world right?
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:14 PM   #3712
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Yes, YouTube is another example of 4K HDR streaming that requires over 25Mbps.
The point of the matter is that LG should start implementing 10/100/1000 network cards in their Oled Tvs now that we have streaming services available of well above 100Mbps. These are the best TV sets in the world right?
Maybe I'm wrong but people seem to be interchanging MBps and Mbps. Most service providers advertise Mbps while most network cards are rated by MBps so 100Mbps is 12.5MBps which a 10/100 network card handles easily.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:42 PM   #3713
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Maybe I'm wrong but people seem to be interchanging MBps and Mbps. Most service providers advertise Mbps while most network cards are rated by MBps so 100Mbps is 12.5MBps which a 10/100 network card handles easily.
Not "easily", that's for sure. If you have internet service speed above 100Mbps and you test wired speed on Oled TV you will quickly find out that you only get a small % of the actual speed that your ISP is providing and not even close to 100Mbps. I get higher speed on WebOS while connected to 5Ghz band than connected to wire!
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:21 PM   #3714
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Not "easily", that's for sure. If you have internet service speed above 100Mbps and you test wired speed on Oled TV you will quickly find out that you only get a small % of the actual speed that your ISP is providing and not even close to 100Mbps. I get higher speed on WebOS while connected to 5Ghz band than connected to wire!
OK, let me try again. You are confusing Mbps and MBps. Service providers list Mbps because the number is larger. The 10/100 card in your computer or TV is MBps. The conversion between the two is a factor of 8. A speed test of a 100 Mbps service is going to show 12.5 MBps. You are comparing apples to oranges.
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Old 07-21-2018, 11:52 AM   #3716
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OK, let me try again. You are confusing Mbps and MBps. Service providers list Mbps because the number is larger. The 10/100 card in your computer or TV is MBps. The conversion between the two is a factor of 8. A speed test of a 100 Mbps service is going to show 12.5 MBps. You are comparing apples to oranges.
Speed tests read Mbps not MBps. So if your device connection speed test reads for example 60Mbps, that is the speed you are actually getting on that device.
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Is there any possible way to turn off realcinema with DV content? Iíve read that setting TrueMotion to user and turning DJ and DB to 0 effectively turns RC off, but it definitely DOES NOT. Pans are SO much jerkier with RC on. I actually prefer just disabling DV output on my X700 and watching HDR10 so I can turn RC off at this point. Any help???
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:25 PM   #3718
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Bump. ^^
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:39 AM   #3719
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Is there any possible way to turn off realcinema with DV content? Iíve read that setting TrueMotion to user and turning DJ and DB to 0 effectively turns RC off, but it definitely DOES NOT. Pans are SO much jerkier with RC on. I actually prefer just disabling DV output on my X700 and watching HDR10 so I can turn RC off at this point. Any help???
Which model do you have? I found that on my 55B6 I would need to do User 1/0 to get everything looking right, but on my 55C6 and 65E6 it needs to be User 0/0 to disable RC with DV content. Odd that itís different. I hate any trace of motion smoothing and RC definitely looks off to me so Iím all for disabling it this way.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:13 PM   #3720
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I love these Oleds but the WebOS is garbage
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