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Old 12-08-2016, 10:57 PM   #21
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My point above is that these things will inevitably be scrutinised by the tech gods and if the Sony's are markedly superior then LG will have to respond to that, either by upping their game or lowering the price and let Sony occupy the higher end that they aspire to. Either way, we get that magic thing which usually ends up benefitting us consumers: competition.
I'm all for competition, I just don't think Sony would be the best candidate since they never price their TVs competitively. Plus, the 2016 LG OLED models are already considered among the best, if not thee best in image quality among all current 4K TVs. Do you really think Sony can make a "markedly superior" product in their first (or even second) year of production when LG already has at least a 5 year head start in R&D?

I'm afraid we are at least 3-4 years away from a competitive OLED market, which is a shame. LG cornered the market because they designed and patented the process of making commercially viable large OLED screens. Until another manufacturer cracks the code, prices will remain steep.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:23 AM   #22
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Don't recall this mentioned, but I do hope they keep Android TV as their OS. I really love the apps that they have and continue to get; the only one I use that they're missing is FunimationNOW!
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:56 AM   #23
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According to Barry Young, CEO of the OLED organization the Sony OLED will come in 55 and 65 inch options. Pricing is $2000 and $3000 respectively. If that's true then this is a game changer.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:34 AM   #24
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Yeah same with me, I almost bought the b6 but have to many 3d movies we enjoy so went with the e6 as well.
Same here.
The G6 is my first 3D television and I can't believe what I've been missing.
I'm surprised 3D seems to be dying off.
When it's done well- It just takes the experience to a whole new level.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:37 AM   #25
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It's about goddamned time. OLED tech + Sony's processing know-how = one seriously good TV. Hopefully.

Looks like I might have a TV upgrade coming sooner rather than later.
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Old 12-09-2016, 01:27 PM   #26
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Just because 3D is not indicated doesn't mean they won't be capable. 3D is almost never mentioned in the specs or advertising.
Some Samsungs don't even indicate it on the box! And Sony's upcoming UHD player is 3d-capable, even though it's rarely noted in the press releases.

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Old 12-09-2016, 02:50 PM   #27
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Thumbs up Sony OLED = Good

I recently purchased an LG E6P OLED and I love the set personally but there is still a few things that need work. Web OS 3.0 is awesome! It's far superior to the Tizen on my Samsung JS9000 but the low brightness (peak limiter) can be annoying in dark movies like Batman VS Superman. In HDR mode the tv auto maxes the brightness but it dims the screen in certain situations to prevent burn in. I also notice some processing artifacts in different scenarios when viewing 4K blurays (I have yet to stream 4K but I own 5 4K discs). Sony X1 processing is some of the best out there. I bought the Js9000 to replace my Sony 950b that was struck by lightning and it just didn't get it...although it is an awesome set. A little competition never hurts the market...at least for consumers.
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:54 PM   #28
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I'm all for competition, I just don't think Sony would be the best candidate since they never price their TVs competitively. Plus, the 2016 LG OLED models are already considered among the best, if not thee best in image quality among all current 4K TVs. Do you really think Sony can make a "markedly superior" product in their first (or even second) year of production when LG already has at least a 5 year head start in R&D?

I'm afraid we are at least 3-4 years away from a competitive OLED market, which is a shame. LG cornered the market because they designed and patented the process of making commercially viable large OLED screens. Until another manufacturer cracks the code, prices will remain steep.
Sony aren't going to be making the panels so that side of things is taken care of, I'm talking about the picture processing itself for which Sony can't be touched by these Korean lads. Yes, they'll need some tweaking to apply their current suite of processing goodness for a completely different panel type...but then Sony have been producing master grade OLED monitors for industry professionals for a while now, so they're not as far behind as you might think.

And as good as LG's 4K OLEDs are, they've still had fundamental processing issues underneath all those otherwise high scores (poor HDR10 mapping, for one) so there is definite room for improvement, and UHD itself isn't the finished article yet! Competition isn't just about driving prices down (which isn't my main concern anyway) but about companies providing better products - so Sony entering the OLED market is a very good thing in the here and now.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:59 PM   #29
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Same here.
The G6 is my first 3D television and I can't believe what I've been missing.
I'm surprised 3D seems to be dying off.
When it's done well- It just takes the experience to a whole new level.
Def true on the 3d being great on these oleds. I had a active plasma 3d tv before and it looked good but the oled 3d is a lot better with less ghosting. I hope lg or sony keeps 3d as a feature for a while or I will hold onto this tv till they stop making parts for it.
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Old 12-10-2016, 09:00 PM   #30
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Default Sony OLED"s in 2017

2nd quarter of 2017..starting around $1999

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...-at-1999/37193
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2nd quarter of 2017..starting around $1999

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...-at-1999/37193
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:38 PM   #32
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guess I missed that....
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:05 PM   #33
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Same here.
The G6 is my first 3D television and I can't believe what I've been missing.
I'm surprised 3D seems to be dying off.
When it's done well- It just takes the experience to a whole new level.
I think it's a combination of OLED and a premium TV. My barometer for getting a 3D set or not was to go to a friends house and and watch a couple movies on what I now know to be a cheap ass TV.
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:23 PM   #34
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I have an lg 4k oled and i am looking forward to buying another i will never by a led ever again .
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:36 PM   #35
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I think I'll wait for Samsung to release one... unless I find an awesome deal.
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Good news, loving my recent LG 55C6 OLED pickup (for $1800 the week before BF) but more options from Sony for potentially lower prices are always welcome.
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but what about the two flaws of oled the brightness and the color not lasting as long as lcd's will that be fixed?
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The latter sounds more like FUD. They are plenty bright already for most enthusiasts. 2017 sets will be even brighter.
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Same here.
The G6 is my first 3D television and I can't believe what I've been missing.
I'm surprised 3D seems to be dying off.
When it's done well- It just takes the experience to a whole new level.
I went from owning a handful of 3D movies (meaning I can count them on one hand) before OLED to around 50 as of this month.
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Whatever your qualms with the 1st gen large panel OLEDs from Sony, one shouldn't deny that another major television manufacturer getting into the OLED market is great news for videophiles and the future of infinite contrast.
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