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Old 05-03-2014, 02:59 AM   #921
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Just ordered this from BB haven't seen it in years can't wait.
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:19 AM   #922
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So I just recently bought this as it is one of my favorite films and while doing some research found out something I thought I would ask about. The original Criterion Laserdisc has 2.35:1 listed as it's OAR however the OAR on this site is listed as 2.39:1. On the Blu-Ray however it is 2.40:1. I'm not an aficionado on aspect ratio but what one is right? They are all quite close I assume not much picture is lost?
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Old 07-30-2014, 07:17 PM   #923
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So I just recently bought this as it is one of my favorite films and while doing some research found out something I thought I would ask about. The original Criterion Laserdisc has 2.35:1 listed as it's OAR however the OAR on this site is listed as 2.39:1. On the Blu-Ray however it is 2.40:1. I'm not an aficionado on aspect ratio but what one is right? They are all quite close I assume not much picture is lost?
The terms are used interchangably. The aspect ratio started at 2.35:1, but was eventually shaved down a bit on the top and bottom so the splices between shots, which often show up as a white line, wouldn't be visible. 2.39:1 is the actual technical standard, as Croweyes points out below, but they all mean the same thing - anamorphic/scope

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So I just recently bought this as it is one of my favorite films and while doing some research found out something I thought I would ask about. The original Criterion Laserdisc has 2.35:1 listed as it's OAR however the OAR on this site is listed as 2.39:1. On the Blu-Ray however it is 2.40:1. I'm not an aficionado on aspect ratio but what one is right? They are all quite close I assume not much picture is lost?
Technically, it's 2.39:1. It often gets either simplified to 2.35:1 or rounded up to 2.40:1. But as far as the real numbers, it should be 2.39:1.

Check this out for more information (scroll to the "When 2.35 became 2.40" section):
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/co...er-2013-part2/
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:20 PM   #925
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So I have been in a Fincher mood and decided to give my least fav film of his another try so I got the Blu Ray. I have not seen this since it's release in theaters.

For me... Time has not been any kinder.
The film feels like a giant waste of time... Even more so with a second viewing because I know the end and what is going on.




I am sure this has been complained about before but don't any fans of the film have an issue with
[Show spoiler]His final jump that was perfectly through the glass ceiling with all the metal beams, and poles that would have surely killed him had he hit one... I know it's "just a movie" but come on... First you have to hope he picks the right side of the building.. second.. If his jump is just a fraction to one side or the other... He would be killed on the metal beams.... Add to that the fact that this film (from what I can tell) does not have a "Sixth Sense" sort of repeat viewing thing going on.. It's not like there a clues about what is happening so when you see it again you can say.. Oh yeah... I see how it's all set up. Like I said for me it just feels like one big waste of time because of the goofy ending.. Would have been better if he really did kill his brother... That would have been a nice twist.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:56 PM   #926
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So I have been in a Fincher mood and decided to give my least fav film of his another try so I got the Blu Ray. I have not seen this since it's release in theaters.

For me... Time has not been any kinder.
The film feels like a giant waste of time... Even more so with a second viewing because I know the end and what is going on.




I am sure this has been complained about before but don't any fans of the film have an issue with
[Show spoiler]His final jump that was perfectly through the glass ceiling with all the metal beams, and poles that would have surely killed him had he hit one... I know it's "just a movie" but come on... First you have to hope he picks the right side of the building.. second.. If his jump is just a fraction to one side or the other... He would be killed on the metal beams.... Add to that the fact that this film (from what I can tell) does not have a "Sixth Sense" sort of repeat viewing thing going on.. It's not like there a clues about what is happening so when you see it again you can say.. Oh yeah... I see how it's all set up. Like I said for me it just feels like one big waste of time because of the goofy ending.. Would have been better if he really did kill his brother... That would have been a nice twist.
I think they somewhat address that by having Jim Feingold say, "If you didn't jump, I was gonna have to push you off".
And that obviously means "that side of the building". So in other words, if Michael Douglas was walking towards one of the other, incorrect sides, Feingold would have grabbed him and pushed him off the correct side.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:02 PM   #927
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So I have been in a Fincher mood and decided to give my least fav film of his another try so I got the Blu Ray. I have not seen this since it's release in theaters.

For me... Time has not been any kinder.
The film feels like a giant waste of time... Even more so with a second viewing because I know the end and what is going on.




I am sure this has been complained about before but don't any fans of the film have an issue with
[Show spoiler]His final jump that was perfectly through the glass ceiling with all the metal beams, and poles that would have surely killed him had he hit one... I know it's "just a movie" but come on... First you have to hope he picks the right side of the building.. second.. If his jump is just a fraction to one side or the other... He would be killed on the metal beams.... Add to that the fact that this film (from what I can tell) does not have a "Sixth Sense" sort of repeat viewing thing going on.. It's not like there a clues about what is happening so when you see it again you can say.. Oh yeah... I see how it's all set up. Like I said for me it just feels like one big waste of time because of the goofy ending.. Would have been better if he really did kill his brother... That would have been a nice twist.
Well, yes, if you're incapable of suspending disbelief in a work of fiction I think you've got bigger problems. There is no such thing as a plot hole, merely contrivances.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:24 PM   #928
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I am sure this has been complained about before but don't any fans of the film have an issue with
[Show spoiler]His final jump that was perfectly through the glass ceiling with all the metal beams, and poles that would have surely killed him had he hit one... I know it's "just a movie" but come on... First you have to hope he picks the right side of the building.. second.. If his jump is just a fraction to one side or the other... He would be killed on the metal beams.... Add to that the fact that this film (from what I can tell) does not have a "Sixth Sense" sort of repeat viewing thing going on.. It's not like there a clues about what is happening so when you see it again you can say.. Oh yeah... I see how it's all set up. Like I said for me it just feels like one big waste of time because of the goofy ending.. Would have been better if he really did kill his brother... That would have been a nice twist.
There is actually a line said in the film's final act:

[Show spoiler]I'm glad you jumped, otherwise I'd have to push you.


Which indicates everything was planned even contingencies.
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Old 11-18-2014, 10:39 PM   #929
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So I have been in a Fincher mood and decided to give my least fav film of his another try so I got the Blu Ray. I have not seen this since it's release in theaters.

For me... Time has not been any kinder.
The film feels like a giant waste of time... Even more so with a second viewing because I know the end and what is going on.




I am sure this has been complained about before but don't any fans of the film have an issue with
[Show spoiler]His final jump that was perfectly through the glass ceiling with all the metal beams, and poles that would have surely killed him had he hit one... I know it's "just a movie" but come on... First you have to hope he picks the right side of the building.. second.. If his jump is just a fraction to one side or the other... He would be killed on the metal beams.... Add to that the fact that this film (from what I can tell) does not have a "Sixth Sense" sort of repeat viewing thing going on.. It's not like there a clues about what is happening so when you see it again you can say.. Oh yeah... I see how it's all set up. Like I said for me it just feels like one big waste of time because of the goofy ending.. Would have been better if he really did kill his brother... That would have been a nice twist.
I really liked this movie the first time I saw it. I have seen it multiple times since, and still enjoy it. As a matter of fact, The Game was the first DVD I purchased, and also the first Criterion blu ray for me too.

As far as your complaint is concerned, I do have to agree with you. Every time I see that scene where
[Show spoiler]Nicholas Van Orton jumps off the building, I think of how horribly wrong that could have went for everyone involved. Everything seemed so carefully planned, but how could they account for such a small area where there were no steel beams and also the placement of the inflatible balloon to break his fall. Thank goodness there was no wind to change his direction by even a few feet, or it would have been the worst birthday present ever.
Then again, the beauty of movies is it's where the impossible is possible.
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Not to mention that the battery of tests Nicholas took was essentially to make his actions under certain circumstances more predictable. Sure, you can nitpick the ending, but you can nitpick anything. Or you can sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Well, yes, if you're incapable of suspending disbelief in a work of fiction I think you've got bigger problems. There is no such thing as a plot hole, merely contrivances.
I never warmed to this movie exactly for the reasons mentioned above. It's not a question of suspending disbelief, since every movie would set out its stall and rules from the outset. You couldn't have a straight western movie play out and then have a dragon kill everyone at the very end for no good reason. This movie makes little sense and doesn't stand up to scrutiny as I recall from my only viewing upon release.

There are several movies that, in my opinion, treat the audience with contempt and this is one of them.....but not as badly as SWITCHBLADE ROMANCE.
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Wow...that dragon analogy is stretching more than a bit, isn't it? haha
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Well, yes, if you're incapable of suspending disbelief in a work of fiction I think you've got bigger problems. There is no such thing as a plot hole, merely contrivances.
[Show spoiler]Perhaps there were failsafes in place, in the event he jumped off a different side of the building? Also, who is to say those beams were metal? Maybe they were props? That a stretch, I know, but so is the entire film.
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[Show spoiler]Perhaps there were failsafes in place, in the event he jumped off a different side of the building? Also, who is to say those beams were metal? Maybe they were props? That a stretch, I know, but so is the entire film.
What does everyone think the price was...the bill Sean Penn got...from CRS?

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Worth every penny.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:36 AM   #936
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[Show spoiler]I love my "What is going on?" twisty stories but found the ending a bit too 'happy' - I thought Nicholas was going to jump without landing on anything and/or kill himself - fuelling thoughts the part with the party wasnt real. End of film
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As far as your complaint is concerned, I do have to agree with you. Every time I see that scene where
[Show spoiler]Nicholas Van Orton jumps off the building, I think of how horribly wrong that could have went for everyone involved. Everything seemed so carefully planned, but how could they account for such a small area where there were no steel beams and also the placement of the inflatible balloon to break his fall. Thank goodness there was no wind to change his direction by even a few feet, or it would have been the worst birthday present ever.
Then again, the beauty of movies is it's where the impossible is possible.
Everyone talks about that scene...what about this one...it's
[Show spoiler]pure luck that nobody got killed here >>>



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I think they somewhat address that by having Jim Feingold say, "If you didn't jump, I was gonna have to push you off".
And that obviously means "that side of the building". So in other words, if Michael Douglas was walking towards one of the other, incorrect sides, Feingold would have grabbed him and pushed him off the correct side.
I thought of that... But you would have to assume he was not going to ru and jump to his death instead of a nice stroll.

Either way it does not excuse the small target he had to hit.

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Well, yes, if you're incapable of suspending disbelief in a work of fiction I think you've got bigger problems. There is no such thing as a plot hole, merely contrivances.
I knew someone would say that... It's not like I was watching a Superhero/sci fi/ or horror movie.

Sure the film had some other moments of unbelief but you could explain it away (Scuba divers for the taxi scene) but the ending was just too much... Add onto the fact that the film does not IMO hold up to repeat viewings because there is no fun to seeing it in a different way when you know the ending... It's a twist for a twist sake... And not a very good one IMO.

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There is actually a line said in the film's final act:

[Show spoiler]I'm glad you jumped, otherwise I'd have to push you.


Which indicates everything was planned even contingencies.
See what I said above.

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I really liked this movie the first time I saw it. I have seen it multiple times since, and still enjoy it. As a matter of fact, The Game was the first DVD I purchased, and also the first Criterion blu ray for me too.

As far as your complaint is concerned, I do have to agree with you. Every time I see that scene where
[Show spoiler]Nicholas Van Orton jumps off the building, I think of how horribly wrong that could have went for everyone involved. Everything seemed so carefully planned, but how could they account for such a small area where there were no steel beams and also the placement of the inflatible balloon to break his fall. Thank goodness there was no wind to change his direction by even a few feet, or it would have been the worst birthday present ever.
Then again, the beauty of movies is it's where the impossible is possible.
Agreed... However I never enjoyed the twist and felt it ruined the film and really ruins it for any repeat viewings.

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I never warmed to this movie exactly for the reasons mentioned above. It's not a question of suspending disbelief, since every movie would set out its stall and rules from the outset. You couldn't have a straight western movie play out and then have a dragon kill everyone at the very end for no good reason. This movie makes little sense and doesn't stand up to scrutiny as I recall from my only viewing upon release.

There are several movies that, in my opinion, treat the audience with contempt and this is one of them.....but not as badly as SWITCHBLADE ROMANCE.
Film takes itself too seriously to suspend disbelief to such an extent.

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Everyone talks about that scene...what about this one...it's
[Show spoiler]pure luck that nobody got killed here >>>

The Game (5/9) Movie CLIP - Deadly Cab Ride (1997) HD - YouTube


You just have to accept that it's a very dangerous game for everyone involved (and also for everyone not involved).

Yeah that is true.... She did say there where scuba divers but the impact of hitting the water could have killed him... Film is just silly IMO... No offence to the fans... The film looks great and has style... Just should not have been a "game"



Add that to the fact if anyone gave me that as a gift I would punch square in the face. That would have been a better ending.
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What does everyone think the price was...the bill Sean Penn got...from CRS?

1.5mil?
Multiply that number by 10 to 20 and you might be closer....
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Probably my least favorite Fincher film (never saw Alien 3).

This movie has a lot of flaws. Yet I own it twice
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