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Old 04-07-2013, 12:24 AM   #181
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jonam "Just to remind you all, the UK release of Never Say Never Again will surely have the horse falling censored or totally cut as they do not tolerate cruelty to animals. That's the only issue I think"

Can anyone confirm whether this is true with the UK edition?
Will there be a NA release?
Yes, it was submitted to the OFLC pre-cut.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:27 AM   #182
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Sorry, is that "Yes there will be a NA release?"

If there will be a NA release, will it also be trimmed like the UK version?
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:39 PM   #183
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Any guesses on a re release of this one?
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:55 PM   #184
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So, anyone know why this went out of print? I bought the Blu when it was obviously in print (keeping it of course!), so what's going on here?
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:55 PM   #185
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I was trying to dig up this thread the other day and could not find it so I posted in the BOND 50 thread lol

I actually just got my copy today I bought from a seller on eBay so now they can re-issue it lol. Actually my copy was the 2009 edition and I guess whoever owned it previously decided to fold the paper cover art in three places not sure why lol so odd!
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:59 PM   #186
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I was trying to dig up this thread the other day and could not find it so I posted in the BOND 50 thread lol

I actually just got my copy today I bought from a seller on eBay so now they can re-issue it lol. Actually my copy was the 2009 edition and I guess whoever owned it previously decided to fold the paper cover art in three places not sure why lol so odd!
That's crazy. Also I looked up how much I paid for the 2009 release and it was only $9. (Is it unusual I don't include tax as to how much I pay for USA Blus but add shipping for UK/HK/etc. ones?)
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:40 AM   #187
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You can get this at amazon.uk for a great price right now...
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:45 AM   #188
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You can get this at amazon.uk for a great price right now...
However, the UK release is censored for a horse fall. All other releases are uncensored.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:48 AM   #189
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However, the UK release is censored for a horse fall. All other releases are uncensored.
Too bad they didn't submit the film to the ratings board with the horsefall included (note: using info from a few posts back that it was submitted in already cut form). I say this because the UK releases of Rambo III have the horsefall.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:20 PM   #190
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Deep Discount had the UK version of this a couple of months ago. I think I picked it up on sale for about $13 on one of their sales. I've also picked up the UK version of the original Italian Job (w/ Michael Caine) for $13 on sale. Every so often they get import titles at reasonable prices.
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:29 PM   #191
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No mention of cuts here (last submission):
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/never-say-never-again-1
Must've been pre-cut?

Found this '15' cert entry:
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/never...eaturette-2001
Guess they decided to drop it rather than bump up the rating?
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:43 AM   #192
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Usually, cuts demanded due to "cruelty to animals" are compulsory. My understanding is that the scene must be cut or no cert will be issued. You don't get a higher rating.
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Old 07-05-2014, 05:02 AM   #193
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There's a number of international releases which do not contain any cuts for those who don't want the UK edition. Prior to selling my OOP US version, I bought the Hong Kong release. Exact same disc as the original MGM release, though it's distributed through Deltamac. So the only real difference is Deltamacs name on the back cover alongside 20th Cent Fox & MGM. It's still available for about $20 bucks.
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:15 PM   #194
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Usually, cuts demanded due to "cruelty to animals" are compulsory. My understanding is that the scene must be cut or no cert will be issued. You don't get a higher rating.
That's correct. These cuts are based on law and must be applied to any category. Even if NSNA was an '18' the same cut would have to be applied (assuming the BBFC still felt it violated the 1937 act).
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:46 PM   #195
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From what I can tell, there are 3 different disc versions of Never Say Never Again (US/HK, International [i.e. JP/KR/TW/Europe], and lastly the censored UK release). The main differences between the US/HK disc and the International disc are the following:
  • No original Dolby Surround track on the International disc
  • No photo gallery on the International disc
  • The International disc has about 3 mbps lower video bit rate.
Here's the BDInfo scans and best prices for both uncut versions:

US/HK release: ($22.82 + $3.85 shipping via DDDHouse, $28.99 + $3.99 shipping via YesAsia)

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Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     NEVER_SAY_NEVER_AGAIN
Disc Size:      44,859,646,707 bytes
Protection:     BD+
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:14:05.704 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   41,976,809,472 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41.74 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34966 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3649 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3649 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French          224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         24.035 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20.130 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         14.238 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          12.765 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         14.601 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Thai            14.182 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.134 kbps


Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Europe (except UK): ($11.33 + $4.85 shipping via Amazon Germany, $13.37 + $11.26 shipping via Amazon Japan).

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Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     NEVER_SAY_NEVER_AGAIN
Disc Size:      48,836,090,330 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00130.MPLS
Length:                 2:14:22.846 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   46,361,639,616 bytes
Total Bitrate:          46.00 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description    
-----                   -------             -----------    
MPEG-4 AVC Video        31833 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3632 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3632 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         192 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
DTS-HD Master Audio             French          1037 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1037 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps
DTS-HD Master Audio             Italian         1109 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1109 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             German          1090 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1090 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Spanish         1074 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1074 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             Czech           224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps
* DTS Audio                     Japanese        768 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
* DTS-HD Master Audio           Japanese        1075 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1075 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
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Presentation Graphics           English         24.148 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         21.198 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           French          20.292 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      19.333 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Italian         19.855 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           German          20.574 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20.385 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         18.235 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         16.909 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Czech           16.134 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Danish          19.817 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           16.712 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         20.483 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Icelandic       18.646 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Indonesian      21.803 kbps                    
* Presentation Graphics         Japanese        10.549 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Korean          13.510 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       19.442 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         18.872 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Thai            24.236 kbps                    
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         0.011 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          0.160 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      0.040 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.198 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           German          0.090 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.186 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Czech           0.015 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Japanese        1.096 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         Japanese        1.777 kbps
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FYI, the US Blu-ray is available from Netflix (usually a long wait), just in case that info can help anyone .
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