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Old 07-05-2013, 05:05 AM   #181
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I have had disc based media since the original laser disc's and have never had a bad disc ever!!!! I have had players stop reading discs due to using the player souch, but I have never had disc not be playable in a player due to disc rot

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So if one person has a grandmother that smoked for 60 years and never got cancer does that mean that smoking doesn't cause cancer just because one person didn't get it?

Just because you personally haven't experienced a disc going bad doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Or I guess I just imagined my Battlestar Galactica DVDs failing me, just like all the other reviews on Amazon are imagining their Battlestar Galactica discs failing them too?

Simple - they were new, they worked - I watched the entire season and they played flawlessly. I put them away for storage. 4 years later I went back to watch some again - the discs wouldn't play - the same DVD player that I used to watch them on wouldn't play them - pixellated, frozen, severe blocking, and unplayable. My PC DVD drive couldn't scan the discs - it said there are many unrecoverable errors. The replacement discs they sent me worked.

But I guess I just imagined all that.

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Old 07-05-2013, 05:07 AM   #182
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Disc rot is where you can see physical signs of erosion, like this

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That's what blu-ray disc rot looks like, anything else is not disc rot, it's simply just a faulty disc or player.
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:08 AM   #183
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Oh geez know your stretching...I know several people that have never had discs as well from age. Could it be a bad bath of discs produced, well maybe....but due to age I never had one and I have over 5000 various disc based formats so I should have encountered this and I never have.

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Old 07-05-2013, 05:13 AM   #184
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Yep I have that on a few of my titles, it really bugs me, going to upgrade my Zombie blue underground dvd to blu ray because it has the worst rot of any disc ive had. Wasnt planning on upgrading zombi to blu because its a movie so boring I cant sit through but it has a couple very brief segments that I like enough to keep in my collection to revisit once in awhile.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:32 AM   #185
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Disc rot is where you can see physical signs of erosion, like this

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That's what blu-ray disc rot looks like, anything else is not disc rot, it's simply just a faulty disc or player.
Yup, a few of my titles have that. A handful of them are Lionsgate titles and one is a WB title. They play fine now but who knows how long it'll be before they're unplayable.

I've owned a lot more DVDs than BDs and only encountered one DVD that went bad. So it seems as though BDs are more susceptible to rotting.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #186
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I bought a Blu-Ray of "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" from a used movie/game/music store and it wouldn't play. Checking the disc, I noticed a weird deformity on the underside of the disc, like the data layer had pulled away from the plastic or something. By a miracle, I still had the receipt and took it back, pointed out the issue, and they quickly exchanged it for a working copy.

Is it possibly a manufacturing error?
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:29 AM   #187
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I bought a Blu-Ray of "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" from a used movie/game/music store and it wouldn't play. Checking the disc, I noticed a weird deformity on the underside of the disc, like the data layer had pulled away from the plastic or something. By a miracle, I still had the receipt and took it back, pointed out the issue, and they quickly exchanged it for a working copy.

Is it possibly a manufacturing error?
Well, anything that is mass produced, especially as mass produced as blu ray won't have 0% failure rate.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:36 PM   #188
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Delamination is quite common on double-sided DVDs (DVD14s and 18s). I had hoped it was something confined to the past but I supposed anything subject to market forces (using a cheaper pressing plant, digipacks with glue interacting with the bonding elements used on the discs themselves) will rear its ugly head again...
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:42 PM   #189
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I've had a few disks skip or freeze, but after checking and giving a quick wipe they always play. But in over 500 (700? 800?) discs I've only had one permanent problem. I got Blade Runner in the briefcase package when it was first released. It played fine a couple hundred times (when I was single I turned on BR every night, I was usually out before the credits were done) and one day it wouldn't load. Tried it on two players and one at the store. They were able to exchange it for me, and that one was played probably another 200 times before my girlfriend moved in with me (now wife!). I checked that first disc and there were no scratches, dust, or layer separation. I at first thought maybe there was a play limit restriction on the disc, but it wouldn't make any sense that it wouldn't play in another player. Anyway I'm now on my third version of BR on BR and no issues yet.
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Old 02-01-2016, 05:45 PM   #190
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Thanks to everyone who posted pics of what disc rot looks like. I was watching Guardians of the Galaxy last night and it froze then skipped part of a scene. This is the 4th time I've watched my Blu-ray and I'm always really careful as not to scratch the disc. Looked at the back and didn't see any rot, not to mention I don't see how a movie that recent could have rot that quickly. Might have to rebuy it though.

As much as I hate having to inevitably go full digital years from now, I think when I get a new computer I'm going to start burning ALL my movies onto a couple of hard drives just in case.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:05 PM   #191
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I don't know if I should stop buying Blu-rays and switch to buying iTunes codes and buying movies through iTunes since hearing about disc rot and I'm leaning toward iTunes if I ever go digital for movies again and buy an Apple TV. Also I wonder if I should stop selling the digital codes that come with my blu-rays and just redeem them in case of disc rot or physical media become obsolete, I still have some of my movies available on the cloud, if the service still is in business. I already own 270 Blu-rays and 2 TV show blu-ray sets and most of my discs are stored in a sleeved disc binder due to space issues and I'm not sure if that will accelerate disc rot. All my CDs are stored in a sleeved disc binder as well. I hate clutter but I hardly ever resell my blu-rays these days because I don't want to later regret it and as a result rebuy some blu-rays a few months later. I mean what is more likely to happen, Apple going out of business or my blu-rays rotting?
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:28 PM   #192
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I've had laserdiscs, DVDs, and BDs go bad. Off the top of my head, Anchor Bay had problems with some of their DVD releases like Heathers and The Wicker Man. With Blu-ray, my French import of Leon became unplayable after a few years (that was an expensive purchase, too). I just hope it's only a small percentage of BDs that will have a problem.
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:16 PM   #193
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I've posted some of these titles before but my running total of "rotted" (or if that term offends "Failed") discs that played fine previously but I cannot get to play all the way to the end on multiple Blu-ray players of various brands has grown:

Stargate (original version - Lions Gate);
Ninth Gate (Lions Gate);
Total Recall (original release of original version - Lions Gate).
Rambo III from the original Rambo set (Lions Gate);
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox);
Speed (Fox);
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (Disney)
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:47 AM   #194
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I've posted some of these titles before but my running total of "rotted" (or if that term offends "Failed") discs that played fine previously but I cannot get to play all the way to the end on multiple Blu-ray players of various brands has grown:

Stargate (original version - Lions Gate);
Ninth Gate (Lions Gate);
Total Recall (original release of original version - Lions Gate).
Rambo III from the original Rambo set (Lions Gate);
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox);
Speed (Fox);
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (Disney)
You Don't need to post this in 10 different threads. It's likely your player anyways. I checked all the titles you mentioned having purchased them on release and all of mine play fine. Nearly every one of these discs however has funky start up menu's so it's likely a problem with BD-J on your player.

1) Try power cycling. Turn it off completely with no discs in the tray. Unplug it from the unit and the wall. Wait 2-3 minutes. Plug it back in and try again.

2) Clear the BD Cache on your player. If the last time you played these films something was stored strangely, or if somehow the data has corrupted, it can prevent the disc from loading correctly.

3) Turn off the internet connection on your player and then try to load the discs. Some of the titles you specified attempt to connect to an online server before loading. This could be causing a problem.

4) Players go bad. Specifically the lasers. Try a different player or better yet try a BD-Drive on your pc. If your player is a few years old it may be time for a new one.

There are known bunches of discs that have universal problems. The titles you mentioned are in that time frame (except for Pirates of the Caribbean). While it's possible 1 or 2 could have failed, the fact that so many at once won't work, and that you have Pirates of the Caribbean in there makes me strongly believe your player is dying.
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:38 PM   #195
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Yeah, it could be rot, or it could be a hinky player.

If you're suddenly having a lot of problems playing certain discs, the player very well could be the problem. Try them on a different player, preferably a different model/brand.
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Old 07-19-2016, 09:05 PM   #196
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I've only had one Blu-ray disc go bad on me to date, "Requiem for a Dream", a Lionsgate release. Played without issue the first time around. About 8-12 months later it would no longer play. When the disc attempted to load it would eventually scroll the below on to the screen, then just sit there.



The disc itself was immaculate. No signs of disc rot or whatever. Tried 3 different hardware Blu-ray players and 3 different software Blu-ray players, all of which resulted in the above. Did attempt to back the disc up and found that one of the M2TS files could not be copied. Purchased another copy of the title for $5 from Amazon. No playback issues. Life goes on.

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Old 07-19-2016, 09:10 PM   #197
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I've only had one Blu-ray disc go bad on me to date, "Requiem for a Dream", a Lionsgate release. Played without issue the first time around. About 8-12 months later it would no longer play. When the disc attempted to load it would eventually scroll the below on to the screen, then just sit there.



The disc itself was immaculate. No signs of disc rot or whatever. Tried 3 different hardware Blu-ray players and 3 different software Blu-ray players, all of which resulted in the above. Did attempt to back the disc up and found that one of the files could not be read. Purchased another copy of the title for $5 from Amazon. No playback issues.
This is exactly my experience as well. I had the original SAW film go bad. It looked pristine but just wouldn't load up in the player. I used the spare copy that Lionsgate included in SAW 4 and never had another issue. Like you I also tried the disc on my PC and my BD Drive couldn't read/load the disc either. I still have several other Launch Lionsgate discs that work just fine, so what I'm reading from mikey ra sounds player related.

When my original PS3 Laser died discs initially loaded and then would fail at layer changes or after so much time into a film. Eventually as the problem worsened over a week it just stopped reading discs entirely. I had the laser replaced and haven't issues in the 5 years since.
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Old 07-20-2016, 08:48 PM   #198
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Yeah, it could be rot, or it could be a hinky player.

If you're suddenly having a lot of problems playing certain discs, the player very well could be the problem. Try them on a different player, preferably a different model/brand.
I've tried on multiple players (Oppo, Ps3 and Samsung) all with same results. BTW - this isn't an all of sudden issue. The titles listed are my running totals. The three recent losses were Rambo III, Rise of the Silver Surfer and Pirates of the Caribbean. The others happened between 2-3 years ago.
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I've tried on multiple players (Oppo, Ps3 and Samsung) all with same results. BTW - this isn't an all of sudden issue. The titles listed are my running totals. The three recent losses were Rambo III, Rise of the Silver Surfer and Pirates of the Caribbean. The others happened between 2-3 years ago.
If these are in fact disc related problems I would look into the way that you are storing them or where they are (or maybe were at one time) placed. It seems highly improbable that you would have so many discs from several different studios go bad when most of the titles you mentioned are not usually problematic. Personally, I still think the issue lies with the players as all of the titles mentioned have funky menu designs and call into servers to check for updates, however in the event that you are correct and the discs are failing, how do you have them stored? Are they near a heat source of any kind? A vent, a radiator, a shelf that the Sun shines on? It would seem that something is either causing the discs to fail or causing them to deteriorate in an accelerated fashion. It's unfortunate for sure, and hopefully the trend doesn't continue for you, but I would definitely start looking at environmental factors if you haven't already.
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Yeah, it could be rot, or it could be a hinky player.

If you're suddenly having a lot of problems playing certain discs, the player very well could be the problem. Try them on a different player, preferably a different model/brand.
Thanks for the advice. This is a running tally over the course of the last 4 years so they did not all go belly up at once. And I have tried lots of players and brands (including friends players) and they all seem to freeze or fail at same spot or in same manner.
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