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Old 09-14-2014, 03:25 AM   #1
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Default Star Trek Compendium- Into Darkness Dialog Glitch

I was watching the new version of Star Trek Into Darkness tonight and at certain points the dialog fell out of sync. At some points I heard a little pop and then the dialog looked like I was watching a dubbed Japanese monster movie. The problem was at random places, not just when switching aspect ratios. I put in my original version of the film and had no problems. My player is a Marantz 7007

I'm going to exchange the set at Best Buy and see what happens.

I'm open to suggestions and hope this isn't a trend.
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I was watching the new version of Star Trek Into Darkness tonight and at certain points the dialog fell out of sync. At some points I heard a little pop and then the dialog looked like I was watching a dubbed Japanese monster movie. The problem was at random places, not just when switching aspect ratios. I put in my original version of the film and had no problems. My player is a Marantz 7007

I'm going to exchange the set at Best Buy and see what happens.

I'm open to suggestions and hope this isn't a trend.
it's a common issue. it's because of Dolby TrueHD and seamless branching (it's happening at the times the huge branching commentary switches on and off...)... it happens with certain receiver and player combos... switch the output of your player to PCM and it will fix the issue. no amount of returning will fix it
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it's a common issue. it's because of Dolby TrueHD and seamless branching (it's happening at the times the huge branching commentary switches on and off...)... it happens with certain receiver and player combos... switch the output of your player to PCM and it will fix the issue. no amount of returning will fix it
Yep, have this issue with Monsters University. Switching to PCM does fix it though.
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Old 09-14-2014, 04:58 PM   #4
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Thanks folks for the advice. It worked. Hopefully there'll be a hardware fix for it eventually.
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Thanks folks for the advice. It worked. Hopefully there'll be a hardware fix for it eventually.
Doubt it, the issue has been common place for several years now on discs that use both TrueHD and seamless branching.
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Doubt it, the issue has been common place for several years now on discs that use both TrueHD and seamless branching.
Perhaps not fixable in every player, but Oppo fixed the issue in their BDP-103/105 series. Fixes the problem on other titles than Monster University too (like Total Recall (2012)), but haven't tested Star Trek: Into Darkness yet.

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Hmmm. It'd be nice if Oppo looked into this for the 93/95 series. They recently said that because the decoding hardware is no longer supported by Mediatek it might be very difficult to issue updates from here on out. But after they said that they issued an update to deal with handshaking issues on Sony 4K TVs and also corrected the distance bug in the audio set-up, so perhaps there's hope.

I'd imagine it'd be a one-shot deal too, i.e. whatever it is about the branching that's corrupting the bitstreaming output should be constant across all the 'problem' discs, so hopefully that will spur them on to fix it (and the hinky subtitle timing on CBS releases too!).
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Wait a minute, a Paramount title with a sound glitch? I don't believe it.
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If you're thinking about TNG and/or Twin Peaks, that's CBS, not Paramount. What we have here is a TrueHD/branching decoding issue with certain players, it's not the disc's fault.
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Glad I found this thread.

I recently picked up the 4K releases of Star Trek (2009) and ST Into Darkness, which include the same regular Blu-Rays as the Compendium (I don't have a 4K set up yet, but I'm buying those combo packs for future proofing purposes, and I never did pick up the actual Compendium set).

I had the audio falling out of sync as well. The weird thing was that when it started to happen, if I backed the disc up slightly and replayed the last minute or two, the audio was synced back up.

I'll try switching to PCM. Hopefully that fixes it.
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I had the audio falling out of sync as well. The weird thing was that when it started to happen, if I backed the disc up slightly and replayed the last minute or two, the audio was synced back up.
This is what I always do. I have a few discs that do this (Total Recall being one of the worst) and rewinding a little typically does the trick. It's annoying but I can live with it for a handful of titles.
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My old LG player suffered from this which put me off watching ceretain films but my new Sony player managed to get through Into Darkness and Monsters University recently with no problems so glad to see certain manufacturers have sorted it.
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This is what I always do. I have a few discs that do this (Total Recall being one of the worst) and rewinding a little typically does the trick. It's annoying but I can live with it for a handful of titles.
Yep I think Ive done this a couple of times and it works.
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