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Old 06-14-2014, 08:40 AM   #921
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Also correct.

The problem I have in Sorcerer is that, while the unstable dynamite is certainly very dangerous, as a viewer, it simply does not give me the same raw, edge-of-my-seat feeling that I get watching them transport liqud nitro over a washboard road...especially at high speeds. Just thinking about the latter practically gives me the cold sweats. haha
I had just turned seventeen when I saw this in the theater, and I knew nothing about dynamite, but the film made it clear that nitroglycerin had settled from the dynamite into the boxes. They were transporting liquid nitroglycerin, not in bottles but in crates.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:03 AM   #922
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I want to recut the footage from Bluray and recreate the original trailer frame by frame with a meticulous precision.
I've actually done this, if you'd like to see it - I'm not sure of b-r.com's policy on posting Youtube links, but if you search for 'Sorcerer 1977 trailer HD remaster' it should appear.

Any tips on the missing/substituted shots, I'd be pleased to hear them...
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:21 AM   #923
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I've actually done this, if you'd like to see it - I'm not sure of b-r.com's policy on posting Youtube links, but if you search for 'Sorcerer 1977 trailer HD remaster' it should appear.

Any tips on the missing/substituted shots, I'd be pleased to hear them...
Fantastic! thank you
Drink up, Mr. innocent. Drink. Everybody's innocent here. There's only one guilty party...and that's me.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:47 PM   #924
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I've actually done this, if you'd like to see it - I'm not sure of b-r.com's policy on posting Youtube links, but if you search for 'Sorcerer 1977 trailer HD remaster' it should appear.

Any tips on the missing/substituted shots, I'd be pleased to hear them...
Outstanding! Great job. Thank you.

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Old 07-18-2014, 03:40 AM   #925
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Just finished watching Friedkin's Sorcerer on the recent Blu.....Wow. What a truly beautiful & sublime movie.

First of all, this print is gorgeous...it's definitely like seeing the film for the first time. Superb PQ & color...the green forest scenery was especially vivid; even the scenes during the downpour (as the trucks were driving over the rickety bridge) were quite clear. Those who were responsible for cleaning this picture up for this Blu print deserve a medal. This is definitely one of my all-time favorite Blu's of a '70's film, and is right up there with the Taxi Driver Blu...

The soundtrack by Tangerine Dream was astounding...I like their music in anything, but it especially worked here.

Re: the inevitable comparison to Wages of Fear, I did see that film and, to be honest, it doesn't hold a candle to the brilliance of Sorcerer. I feel Friedkin's film was much more intense & well done. Though, granted, I'm biased towards '70's films anyway since it's probably my favorite decade for cinema:

I thought it was great to see the beginning sequences which explained why these four guys ended up living in a hell-hole at the end of the earth, and why they were down on their luck/desperate enough to take the extremely dangerous job of transporting dynamite. The extreme contrast between the various urban areas (New Jersey, Paris, etc.) in the beginning to a s%$&%$ in the middle of nowhere was quite pronounced...This exposition was missing from the WOF; as far as I can remember, there wasn't a back-story for the characters in that film...

Also, the ending scenes were incredible:

-Great scenery when
[Show spoiler]Scheider was driving through the canyons towards the end; the purple dusk sky in the background was stunning
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The final scene of the film was truly brilliant -
[Show spoiler]liked the unexpected downer of having Scheider about to get away with the $, then having the taxi pull up outside of the cantina with the mob guys who were after him...after they went into the cantina you knew he was a goner (and I believe you heard a shot....)


I was also very impressed by the small HC booklet that came with the film (an excerpt from Friedkin's memoir); great insight on the making of the movie, and it was especially interesting to hear Friedkin's inspiration for the title of the film. Prior to reading this, I had no idea why a movie about a group of desperate men transporting dynamite across a jungle would be titled Sorcerer....

Didn't mind that there were no extras on this Blu; the print & film were so stellar that I honestly didn't care...

I wonder why this film didn't do better in the theater? Possibly because, as Friedkin himself says in the book, it came out around the same time the original Star Wars hit theaters, and nothing much could compete with SW at that time...

(The only other time I had seen Sorcerer was the old pan & scan DVD from years ago; that print was horrible, and looked like a bad VHS rip...In any case, the PQ was so bad on that print that I actually couldn't make out most of the action, and therefore the movie didn't make a lot of sense to me...)

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Old 07-18-2014, 04:02 AM   #926
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The final scene of the film was truly brilliant -
[Show spoiler]liked the unexpected downer of having Scheider about to get away with the $, then having the taxi pull up outside of the cantina with the mob guys who were after him...after they went into the cantina you knew he was a goner (and I believe you heard a shot....)
Which was sadly just added for this release.
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:05 AM   #927
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Which was sadly just added for this release.
Didn't know this, since I hadn't seen the film for years. Well, to be honest,
[Show spoiler]the noise of the shot wasn't necessary, since you knew what was going to happen right when the mobsters walked into the cantina...
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:23 AM   #928
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Friedkin's incapable of subtlety anymore (not that the film was subtle in the first place, but, y'know).

His recut of Rampage managed to remove any ambiguity as well.
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:20 PM   #929
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Friedkin's incapable of subtlety anymore (not that the film was subtle in the first place, but, y'know).

His recut of Rampage managed to remove any ambiguity as well.
Don't get me started on Exorcist: The Version You Wish You'd Never Seen
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:39 AM   #930
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Don't get me started on Exorcist: The Version You Wish You'd Never Seen
To be fair to Friedkin, he only did that to please Blatty. He was right the first time around, but he caved to Blatty's consistent pleading. And as much as I like Blatty, Friedkin was right the first time around.
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Old 07-21-2014, 09:28 AM   #931
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I'm not sure Blatty wanted all that crappy cgi, but still.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:52 AM   #932
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Which was sadly just added for this release.
...Seriously? I watched the remaster the other week and completely missed this. That's...highly irritating
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:06 PM   #933
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I'm not sure Blatty wanted all that crappy cgi, but still.
Nor the overwhelming blue cast he added to the exorcism sequences.

I wish Friedkin would take off his stagey opera director hat before playing with the colourist's tools on his remasters. His all-too-obvious "effects" are a cramp in the buttocks.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:17 AM   #934
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Finally got see this, and I think it lived up the hype. It definitely is rewatchable. It's a shame more people haven't seen it.

And despite what Friedkin supposedly said about Roy Scheider, I think Scheider brought his A game.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:52 AM   #935
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Finally got see this, and I think it lived up the hype. It definitely is rewatchable. It's a shame more people haven't seen it.

And despite what Friedkin supposedly said about Roy Scheider, I think Scheider brought his A game.
Agreed. IMHO Scheider was great in everything he was in, especially French Connection, Jaws, The Seven Ups, 52 Pick Up, etc.

However, IMHO Sorcerer is his best role...
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:49 PM   #936
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Didn't know this, since I hadn't seen the film for years. Well, to be honest,
[Show spoiler]the noise of the shot wasn't necessary, since you knew what was going to happen right when the mobsters walked into the cantina...
Thank you ...



er... I mean William Friedkin!
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