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Old 08-27-2015, 09:53 PM   #1101
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In other words, they had to have a strong female character, because its the trendy thing to do and without one it could be deemed sexist and not diverse (despite the fact the original main character is Asian, which apparently isn't diverse enough!).

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Old 08-27-2015, 10:01 PM   #1102
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Do you ever say anything positive? Almost every post I see you make is complaining one form or another.
It's not only that, if it's not complaining about one thing it's complaining about something else. He's be moaning about too many comic book movies, yet suddenly when it comes to casting, he's suddenly a grand expert on all the characters ethnic backgrounds. Everyone is an expert when it comes to complaining, but a Wikipedia page worth of knowledge will always be transparent when compared to people who genuinely care about these things.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:03 PM   #1103
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All I'm saying is I just find the whole thing incredibly transparent, you guys don't see it or don't wanna see it, fine.

There aren't many Asian people in these comicbook flicks (if any? can't recall), could of had a great character here played Chow Yun Fat or Ken Watanabe or Jet Li or Rick Yune, Maybe Oded Fehr for Mordo...but no, whatever.

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All I'm saying is I just find the whole thing incredibly transparent, you guys don't see it or don't wanna see it, fine.

There aren't many Asian people in these comicbook flicks (if any? can't recall), could of had a great character here played Chow Yun Fat or Ken Watanabe or Jet Li or Rick Yune, Maybe Oded Fehr for Mordo...but no, whatever.
Ken Watanabe was up for the role...And lost it to someone who Marvel felt delivered better. They clearly felt she was a better fit for the role. There's nothing transparent here, just what you want to see.
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Weren't you one of the guys who ripped into F4 for straying from the source material? But you're fine with a complete gender and race swap in this instance? Apologies if you weren't. But if the Ancient One is Asian in the comics, then how is casting an Asian a "stereotype"? It's being true to the source material is it not?
I was not. I couldn't care less who plays who as long as the performance is good. And I said people will say it's a stereotype. I didn't say I would say that but people complain about anything so that would come up more than likely.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:25 PM   #1106
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The casting news on this film is just ridiculous. Every update about this film is brilliant. This cast is pure gold. Ever since I saw the animated Doctor Strange film I've had this feeling the live action adaptation could be something really special. With this cast, I think we might have something that ends up more than a simple "superhero" flick.

Based on Mikkelsen's past performances, I'd reaaaaally like to see him play Nightmare. I think that would be the perfect casting. I don't know if it's the best idea to bring Dormamu into the universe quite yet, at least in any impactful way. An after credits scene would be ideal imo.


And if you think race is essential to the ancient one's identity, you probably haven't read much about the ancient one.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:45 PM   #1107
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How is the casting excellent? Once again we have a needless gender swap, a needless race swap and the miscasting of Cumberbatch because apparently we have to cast him in like...everything! (much like Dwayne Johnson).

They had a chance to cast an Asian male (possibly an older male), which would show more solid diversity, but they've swapped the gender to a female again lol! so they reversed the process.

That's not diversity, that's doing the same thing everyone else is doing now, that's going backwards. You have the same setup (although no swapping) going on in Star Wars! seems to be a pattern emerging.



The main Ancient One is an Asian male.




eh? I would just like the casting to actually represent how the actual characters look from their source material. As said before, if you change it all up so much then you might as well just make a different movie.
so just skip right over my reply to you that addresses all of this.
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so just skip right over my reply to you that addresses all of this.
Now how is he going to complain if he listens to what people say?
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Now how is he going to complain if he listens to what people say?
hypothetically, if I were to call a person a tool (not saying who), would I get banned?

Where's CrazyBlue?

Again, completely hypothetically, and not related to Spirit Zero at all.
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hypothetically, if I were to call a person a tool (not saying who), would I get banned?

Where's CrazyBlue?

Again, completely hypothetically, and not related to Spirit Zero at all.
I'd call him a tool.
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Why does it matter who acts as Villain in a Marvel movie :-)
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I was really sad that Mads Mikkelsen wasn't able to be in Thor 2 ... until I saw Thor 2. I enjoy the movie a lot, but that really is the least interesting villain they have shown us. Hopefully we get something a lot more memorable here.

Also, Mads Mikkelsen is a freakin' awesome actor!
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Ken Watanabe was up for the role...And lost it to someone who Marvel felt delivered better. They clearly felt she was a better fit for the role. There's nothing transparent here, just what you want to see.
My recommendation for The Ancient One went totally ignored, when I suggested Beat Takeshi. He's a very good actor from Japan, and he'd make quite a mentor. He did the entertaining Brother (2000) with Omar Epps.



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Only to 40 years later not have an Asian head up a major studio production. I'm feeling Spirit's thoughts, and I think his heart is in the right place, though people ready themselves for attack, or resort to insulting and belittling another, when you don't agree with the masses, or have a different opinion.

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