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Old 04-04-2014, 01:54 PM   #501
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The Warner Archive releases seem to be on a different track from the seemingly bigger sellers. I've got to imagine that at some point the main Warner company will release Yankee Doodle Dandy, The Band Wagon, and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers at least, since those got 2-disc special editions previously.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:59 PM   #502
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Id love the Philadelphia Story, the FBI Story, The Mortal Storm. Village of the Damned , Them, The Thing from Another World and Time After Time as well...
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:59 PM   #503
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I would really love a KLUTE release that is a well done transfer such as the one Performance has rec'd. It even has a higher than usual bit rate than most standard WB Blu releases. (not that it means anything)
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:59 PM   #504
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I always thought that the "Archive Collection" was meant to encompass any and all movies/shows that someone would want to Archive not a collection of only classic films? If WAC released only "classic movies" they would never make money. They have to release what the market dictates. I myself would love a Blu of The Learning Tree but I don't see it happening
Warner BD Archive is not releasing enough movies in order to justify so broad a scope. Only one movie per month?! That's a joke. Even lowly Twilight Time is doing 5 per month now, and they're not worried about including TV shows from 2008 in order to fill their quota. They can press 3000 (which is about 3x more than the minimum feasible) copies and sell them for twice as much and (eventually) sell them all. There's no reason Warner can't do the same. A limited edition a la TT would sell copies by making people by sooner rather than later.

Warner is literally thousands of viable classics in their vaults and they should be focusing more on those, just as they have with their highly successful DVD Archive program. But until they break the shackles of having to press discs (and all the constraints that go along with it, such as minimum pressing requirements) and start releasing burned discs (and/or offer limited editions of x copies like TT does) then this program is not going to go very far.

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Old 04-04-2014, 04:18 PM   #505
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Warner BD Archive is not releasing enough movies in order to justify so broad a scope. Only one movie per month?! That's a joke. Even lowly Twilight Time is doing 5 per month now, and they're not worried about including TV shows from 2008 in order to fill their quota. They can press 3000 (which is about 3x more than the minimum feasible) copies and sell them for twice as much and (eventually) sell them all. There's no reason Warner can't do the same. A limited edition a la TT would sell copies by making people by sooner rather than later.

Warner is literally thousands of viable classics in their vaults and they should be focusing more on those, just as they have with their highly successful DVD Archive program. But until they break the shackles of having to press discs (and all the constraints that go along with it, such as minimum pressing requirements) and start releasing burned discs (and/or offer limited editions of x copies like TT does) then this program is not going to go very far.
One disc a month would be most welcome! (but we haven't got that) though the last two months are looking better (Especially if WBA is going to do more blu-rays at a steady rate).

Pressed blu-rays are better - plus burning any title on blu is not going to be worth it - these films do take time and deserve the best mastering/print restoration possible. Most of the titles in the Archive can not be burned to blu without extensive restoration work and blu would just reveal how bad they really look.

But Warner has dozen of more popular film on their HD site which would most likely be available for blu-ray production. (Though the Archive probably won't be allowed to released them as they belong to Warner Home Video - which has been very slow in releasing older titles.)

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Old 04-04-2014, 04:37 PM   #506
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Which would most likely be available for blu-ray production. (Though the Archive probably won't be allowed to released them as they belong to Warner Home Video - which has been very slow in releasing older titles.)
I think of Warner as being one of the better major studios in terms of releasing catalog product on Blu-ray. Is it as much as I'd like? Of course not. But I wouldn't blame them for dealing with the dire situation of physical media today in the way they best see fit. My two favorite catalog Blu-rays last year were Flashdance and Cabaret, both from WHV.
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I think of Warner as being one of the better major studios in terms of releasing catalog product on Blu-ray. Is it as much as I'd like? Of course not. But I wouldn't blame them for dealing with the dire situation of physical media today in the way they best see fit. My two favorite catalog Blu-rays last year were Flashdance and Cabaret, both from WHV.
Well both "Flashdance" and "Cabaret" are post 1970 titles, I was thinking more along the lines of "classic films" from the 30's and 40's which Warner was famous for.

Plus "Flashdance" is a Paramount release - Warner is just distributing the discs
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Well both "Flashdance" and "Cabaret" are post 1970 titles, I was thinking more along the lines of "classic films" from the 30's and 40's which Warner was famous for
How many 30s titles has Sony released on Blu-ray? I'm waiting like crazy for the Berkeley set.
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I think of Warner as being one of the better major studios in terms of releasing catalog product on Blu-ray. Is it as much as I'd like? Of course not. But I wouldn't blame them for dealing with the dire situation of physical media today in the way they best see fit. My two favorite catalog Blu-rays last year were Flashdance and Cabaret, both from WHV.
You have to keep in mind that they hold perhaps three times as much viable catalog in their vaults than anybody else, so they have to be more prolific. Otherwise their movies would be underrepresented compared to other studios with fewer offerings. if you compare percentage-wise (how much they've released vs. how much they've got), they are actually in the bottom half of productivity overall, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were last.

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Old 04-04-2014, 05:01 PM   #510
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How many 30s titles has Sony released on Blu-ray? I'm waiting like crazy for the Berkeley set.

Fox has released approx 18-20 films from the 30's and 40's (plus some others through Twilight which they licensed out)

Universal over a dozen - and Universal is considered the worst

WB has released about 20 - but they don't licensed out and they also bought up RKO, Goldwyn, MGM, Lormiar and New Line - the other studios only have their own product - Warner has much more - why buy it if you're not going to release it?


Fox get's my vote for best catalog. Sony is starting to release some 40's through Twilight - but Sony licenses most catalog out to Twilight, Image and Mill Creek

As for actual Warner Bros productions - there are "8" released from the 30's and 40's - the others are MGM and Goldwyn titles

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Old 04-04-2014, 05:28 PM   #511
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Pressed blu-rays are better - plus burning any title on blu is not going to be worth it - these films do take time and deserve the best mastering/print restoration possible. Most of the titles in the Archive can not be burned to blu without extensive restoration work and blu would just reveal how bad they really look.
All Warner Archive Blu-rays are pressed. Always have been, always will be. BD-Rs cannot play on the PS3/PS4/XBox 1 with AACS and are otherwise far more unreliable than DVD-Rs, so BD-Rs will not happen.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:10 PM   #513
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Yea, Warner needs to pick up the pace for their Archive Blu-ray offerings. So many titles that need to be out there. I don't care if I need to pay ala Twilight Time, just make them available.......

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Old 04-04-2014, 07:16 PM   #514
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I don't care if I need to pay ala Twilight Time, just make them available.......
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:06 PM   #515
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The thing is, that Warner led the way in releasing a serious amount of catalog titles on DVD. But this begs the question: how well did a lot of those titles actually sell? And it begs the second question: Did they oversaturate the market? My guess is (1) not all that well, and (2) probably.

I've no doubt that one of the primary criteria they use in determining what catalog titles to release on Blu is "how well did this sell on DVD". And they have to be wary of putting out too many titles because if they do, they'll not only be in competition with the other studio labels, they'll be in competition with themselves.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:05 PM   #516
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Everybody says that until a studio or distributor does charge a premium...then the rending of garments begins
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