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Old 03-01-2010, 08:56 PM   #1
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Seems like alot their latest and upcoming releases are DTS master audio.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?studioid=9

Don't want to turn this into a dolby vs dts thread. I just want to know if it's official.
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I too noticed this as well. I don't see too many blu's with Dolby True HD anymore. Mostly DTS HDMA.
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Seems like alot their latest and upcoming releases are DTS master audio.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?studioid=9

Don't want to turn this into a dolby vs dts thread. I just want to know if it's official.
Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio , it really does not matter to me as long as it is not Dolby Digital 5.1
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I think this may be related to the absortion of New Line by Warner.
All New Line titles were DTS MA. Warner is probably continuing to use DTS with all the New Line catalog.
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meh. i'll be more interested when they go AVC.
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I could care less whether they go DTS or TrueHD. I just want them (and Paramount) to stop using DialNorm!!!!
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meh. i'll be more interested when they go AVC.
The main thing is it seems they have drastically toned down their use of DNR/EE over the last year or so.
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The main thing is it seems they have drastically toned down their use of DNR/EE over the last year or so.
That's not high praise. It's like giving a dog a treat because he pees in the house a little less often.
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That's not high praise. It's like giving a dog a treat because he pees in the house a little less often.
I'm not praising them. I'm just glad they are finally getting their act together.
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meh. i'll be more interested when they go AVC.
I'd actually like to see them switch just to see if it gets rid of the aliasing issues I see on their movies.
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I could care less whether they go DTS or TrueHD. I just want them (and Paramount) to stop using DialNorm!!!!
you mean you couldn't care less...
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The main thing is it seems they have drastically toned down their use of DNR/EE over the last year or so.
Yeah, but the problem is, when you give a movie a 15mbps video bitrate (like The Hangover) you might as well be using DNR since the encoder is going to start tossing out the detail. From the discs I've rented in the last year, AVC seems to have pulled ahead considerably where it was a tossup in, say, 2007. I really think Warner doesn't have far to go to go from being one of the worse studios PQ-wise to one of the best, they need to find a video authoring operation that knows what they're doing (maybe give Paramount or Criterion a call).
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Yeah, but the problem is, when you give a movie a 15mbps video bitrate (like The Hangover) you might as well be using DNR since the encoder is going to start tossing out the detail. From the discs I've rented in the last year, AVC seems to have pulled ahead considerably where it was a tossup in, say, 2007. I really think Warner doesn't have far to go to go from being one of the worse studios PQ-wise to one of the best, they need to find a video authoring operation that knows what they're doing (maybe give Paramount or Criterion a call).
With the Hangover, they made the idiotic decision to use two encodes for the theatrical and extended versions of the film instead of seamless branching. Otherwise, they have used solid bitrates on most of their material over the last couple years.
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I'd actually like to see them switch just to see if it gets rid of the aliasing issues I see on their movies.
Universal uses VC-1 and they have some of the best tranfers. Warner is just incapable of making a reference PQ.

Anyway, i dont really care if they use DTS, we'll still be stuck with dialnorm and 16bit tracks.
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Universal uses VC-1 and they have some of the best tranfers. Warner is just incapable of making reference PQ.

Anyway, i dont really care if they use DTS, we'll still be stuck with dialnorm and 16bit tracks.
I agree. Except! I think they use 24-Bit tracks for DTS-HD MA.

And I think kpkelley here mentioned something about a default setting on VC-1 to smooth out edges that may be causing the aliasing in WB titles. So it could just be the encoder not knowing what he's doing.

Either way, like you said, Universal uses VC-1 and doesn't have issues. Same with the Disney titles encoded with VC-1. Deja Vu looks flawless.
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I could care less whether they go DTS or TrueHD. I just want them (and Paramount) to stop using DialNorm!!!!
I thought DialNorm was only used in Dolby tracks. Am I mistaken?

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you mean you couldn't care less...
Haha. That's a pet peeve of a friend of mine too. If you say "irregardless" around him he'll want to slap you.
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I thought DialNorm was only used in Dolby tracks. Am I mistaken?
Both formats support Dialnorm though it seems to be turned off most of the time in DTS tracks. There was a whole big issue when the IMAX version of Transformers 2 came out and had -4db dialnorm, causing total panic.
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Haha. That's a pet peeve of a friend of mine too. If you say "irregardless" around him he'll want to slap you.
Dialnorm can be applied to both DTS and Dolby tracks. On Dolby encoders, it's engaged by default. DTS makes it so you have to enable it.

A pet peeve of mine is "worse" because it seems to be something that is happening more and more frequently on the boards here. If something is the WORST, it can't get any WORSE.
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Both formats support Dialnorm though it seems to be turned off most of the time in DTS tracks. There was a whole big issue when the IMAX version of Transformers 2 came out and had -4db dialnorm, causing total panic.
Yeah, dialnorm is defaulted to 0 in DTS encoders i think.
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Either way, like you said, Universal uses VC-1 and doesn't have issues. Same with the Disney titles encoded with VC-1. Deja Vu looks flawless.
Gangs of New York part 1 was VC-1.
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