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Old 07-11-2016, 10:08 PM   #6141
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Forget about all that zooming in malarkey, if people can't see how ragged the US compression is in this shot at normal size (just look at her cheek!) then I don't know what to say: http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go...46984&i=11&l=1

Is it something that's all that obvious in motion? Perhaps not. But the Euro encode is still superior.
I have better than 20/20 and a large monitor and I would still classify that as a slight improvement likely not visible in motion at all.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:05 PM   #6142
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Slight? Her face is a morass of macroblocks in the US. But as I said, would it be overtly visible in motion? Doubtful. (Especially since I had very little trouble with the compression on the new UK Highlander restoration, folks be losing their minds over the caps )
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Slight? Her face is a morass of macroblocks in the US. But as I said, would it be overtly visible in motion? Doubtful. (Especially since I had very little trouble with the compression on the new UK Highlander restoration, folks be losing their minds over the caps )
Looked at it again for a while. Seriously just looks like a small grain difference to me. I don't see macroblocks. Weird. My monitor isn't pro-calibrated but it is set on a pro-calibrated "mode" for photoshop. I dunno.
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Looked at it again for a while. Seriously just looks like a small grain difference to me. I don't see macroblocks. Weird. My monitor isn't pro-calibrated but it is set on a pro-calibrated "mode" for photoshop. I dunno.
It's glaringly obvious to me.
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:17 AM   #6145
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It's glaringly obvious to me.
Okay. Below the earring I see a bit of smoother surface, and her freckles might be less defined higher up, but I don't see macroblocking at all. Could be the monitor, who knows.
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So it seems I have the worse version?
Bought the 10th Anniversary Edition maybe 5 years ago?
The number on the 1st disc ends with R1.
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So it seems I have the worse version?
Bought the 10th Anniversary Edition maybe 5 years ago?
The number on the 1st disc ends with R1.
Yep. You want this one: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gladiator-Blu-ray/10420/
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Forget about all that zooming in malarkey, if people can't see how ragged the US compression is in this shot at normal size (just look at her cheek!) then I don't know what to say: http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go...46984&i=11&l=1

Is it something that's all that obvious in motion? Perhaps not. But the Euro encode is still superior.
Is the UK version as good as the German edition?
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Is the UK version as good as the German edition?
Exact same disc AFAIK. I've got the Dutch steelbook: again, exact same disc as across Europe.
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I'm late to the party.....is there a reason we should get this one versus the UK release? Also, which UK releases have the superior Universal remaster? There are so many UK Gladiator releases
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I'm late to the party.....is there a reason we should get this one versus the UK release? Also, which UK releases have the superior Universal remaster? There are so many UK Gladiator releases
You can get the UK release if you want. I bought the DE release because at the time it was cheaper.
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You can get the UK release if you want. I bought the DE release because at the time it was cheaper.
Do you know which UK releases would I want to consider? There are a lot of standalone Gladiator releases over there. Way more than I thought there would be lol!
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Do you know which UK releases would I want to consider? There are a lot of standalone Gladiator releases over there. Way more than I thought there would be lol!
Not sure which UK release offhand. Geoff would know.
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I see more vertical detail on her lip in the U.S. cap.

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I see more vertical detail on her lip in the U.S. cap.

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Are you sure it's not sharpening? Also, the grain is smudgy on the U.S. disc where it's nicely refined on the DE disc.
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I see more vertical detail on her lip in the U.S. cap.

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Right, I KNOW that this isn't how we watch movies but please, look at the 200% blow-up and then tell me that the US one isn't a blocky mess in comparison. (BTW I can see this blocking in the regular sized caps without any zooming whatsoever but no-one else seemingly can, so...I dunno )

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[edit] But it is an odd duck. There's genuinely a smidge more detail here and there on the US, and the coarseness of the compression actually makes it look sharper from a distance, while the Euro looks much more uniform at the expense of being the teensiest bit filtered, though there's also parts of the image where it retains detail that the US does not. Either way, it kicks the ARSE of the original disc and for that we must be eternally grateful.

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Right, I KNOW that this isn't how we watch movies but please, look at the 200% blow-up and then tell me that the US one isn't a blocky mess in comparison. (BTW I can see this blocking in the regular sized caps without any zooming whatsoever but no-one else seemingly can, so...I dunno )

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=...&l=1&i=11&go=1

[edit] But it is an odd duck. There's genuinely a smidge more detail here and there on the US, and the coarseness of the compression actually makes it look sharper from a distance, while the Euro looks much more uniform at the expense of being the teensiest bit filtered, though there's also parts of the image where it retains detail that the US does not. Either way, it kicks the ARSE of the original disc and for that we must be eternally grateful.
You know I can as much I analyze this stuff and have for nearly a decade.
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Yes, I was just playing the martyr. Woe is me, cursed with the all-seeing eye!
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Right, I KNOW that this isn't how we watch movies but please, look at the 200% blow-up and then tell me that the US one isn't a blocky mess in comparison. (BTW I can see this blocking in the regular sized caps without any zooming whatsoever but no-one else seemingly can, so...I dunno )
You make me feel insane with these caps because as hard as I try, 6 inches from my monitor, I still can't see blocks on her cheek on the US disc. Now I DO see more grain in the German, but I don't see blocks on the US one. Maybe it's just my relatively warm colored monitor and her beige cheek playing tricks though, I usually agree with you on caps.

Either way I thought the US disc looked fine in motion, but not amazing.
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