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Old 01-27-2016, 05:42 PM   #641
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Goldsmith's score is easily - easily - superior to the Tangerine Dream score in so far as it fits the movie seamlessly, enhances the drama/characters, adds a feeling of scope that the movie lacks and just generally sells the experience. Plus is amazing music, one of the composer's very best. One of his own favourites too. Ridley Scott agreed, and favoured it for his director's cut, but sadly didn't defend it when Universal wanted it replaced.

Tangerine Dream's just sits there, rather uncomfortably. It's not very good. It isn't even in the top 5 TD scores IMHO. The waltz is particularly uncomfortable - since the dance was originally choreographed to the Goldsmith cue (recorded pre-filming).

I understand that those who grew up with the TD score may be more accustomed to it, and may genuinely prefer it, but the romantic/fantasy/orchestral approach was correct for this movie.
I saw the film for the first time last year, and watched both versions back to back. I preferred the TD score in a big way, the Goldsmith one seemed over-done somehow. I am not a synth fanatic by any stretch of the imagination, either, I definitely worship at the altar of John Williams/John Barry and like some of Goldsmith's other scores (he is one of my least-favorite of the big composers, though), but it just seemed like too much here. The dance scene in particular seemed way too busy, the music was actively distracting from what went on. Now, I WAS listening to the music closely because I'd read beforehand that this was one of the great lost scores of all time or something, so it might have been less annoying if I hadn't been focusing attention on it and didn't have raised expectations, but it really didn't seem like anything special to me. When it comes to 80s orchestral fantasy scores, give me Conan the Barbarian or Dragonslayer or even frickin Willow or The Dark Crystal any day!
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I like both versions of the film. The US cut though severely cutting the plot/backstory down does have a somewhat hypnotic mid-80's music video quality to it, which I'd attribute to the Tangerine Dream score.

The longer version has a great traditional Goldsmith orchestral score and helps make the plot a little more easier to follow. I think this is one film that has multiple cuts that I actually would watch both of the cuts. When it comes to something like Blade Runner I just want to watch the Final Cut, and with the Star Wars OT....just gotta drag out my 20 year old VHS tapes out.
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I mostly thought the director's cut was better apart from the score, but I like that gruesome opening on the theatrical cut.
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I saw the film for the first time last year, and watched both versions back to back. I preferred the TD score in a big way, the Goldsmith one seemed over-done somehow. I am not a synth fanatic by any stretch of the imagination, either, I definitely worship at the altar of John Williams/John Barry and like some of Goldsmith's other scores (he is one of my least-favorite of the big composers, though), but it just seemed like too much here. The dance scene in particular seemed way too busy, the music was actively distracting from what went on. Now, I WAS listening to the music closely because I'd read beforehand that this was one of the great lost scores of all time or something, so it might have been less annoying if I hadn't been focusing attention on it and didn't have raised expectations, but it really didn't seem like anything special to me. When it comes to 80s orchestral fantasy scores, give me Conan the Barbarian or Dragonslayer or even frickin Willow or The Dark Crystal any day!
don't forget Laurence Rosenthal's soundtrack to 'Clash of the Titans' (1981)

Trevor Jones' 'Dark Crystal' score is just epic - I played the vinyl to death.

Speaking of which was the alternate score by Vangelis for 'The Dark Crystal' cinematic legend or did he actually compose all (or some) of it?
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I dunno, I've never really looked at any behind-the-scenes stuff about The Dark Crystal before apart from all the Brian Froud conceptual art. I never heard anything about the score.

Clash of the Titans does have a pretty good one, I forgot about that. It's been a longggg time since I watched that one.
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I dunno, I've never really looked at any behind-the-scenes stuff about The Dark Crystal before apart from all the Brian Froud conceptual art. I never heard anything about the score.

Clash of the Titans does have a pretty good one, I forgot about that.
It's been a longggg time since I watched that one.
I have that soundtrack on vinyl and it is indeed awesome.
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I have that soundtrack on vinyl and it is indeed awesome.
Yep, the Titans soundtrack definitely elevates the film to a whole other level.
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I would happily exchange all of those boring Hans Zimmer derivatives for more rockin' electronic scores.
Can we apply this to all modern movies please? lol.
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The Tangerine Dream soundtrack is great, but it doesn't fit the movie at all. Goldsmith's score is far superior.
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