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Old 05-22-2017, 08:17 PM   #101
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I havn't returned my copy of The Dish yet, maybe I'll do the same. The Ultimate Shite Bluray Example.

Or sell it on ebay as suggested above.
I dont think keeping this disc out there is the right thing to do. If you dont want to return it then destroy it completely.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:27 PM   #102
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I accidentally picked up a copy of the original Gladiator release. And while the BD looked OK (was DNR'd to death), the re-release looked so much better. I've kept the shite one as an example of how not to do a Blu-Ray transfer... and to show others why keeping a natural film grain allows for an abundant amounts of find detail and is how a film on BD should look.

Terminator 2 "Skynet Edition" and Predator "Ultimate Hunter" are my go-to demo discs for DNR overkill. I bought the latter right when I began converting - would have been one of the first 10 or so BDs I got - and initially I thought it looked amazing, then the more I watched other movies on the format I realized what a plastic abomination it truly is. I still have the copy that came in the Predator trilogy set - which gives specs on the back cover for the original release, but they obviously "upgraded" it on the sly - and a separate copy of the original, just in case anyone I know hasn't seen it and I need to show them how hilarious it really is.

Anyway, will keep an eye on how this remaster of The Dish turns out. Hopefully they don't bollocks it up this time.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:38 PM   #103
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Anyway, will keep an eye on how this remaster of The Dish turns out. Hopefully they don't bollocks it up this time.

They are not remastering hence all the complaints.

The recall is just to change the sleeve. To remove the strap line on the top of the front cover.

"Transmitting for the first time in stunning High Definition"

and to put somewhere on the sleeve, probably in very small print, it's an upscale of an SD master.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:40 PM   #104
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They are not remastering hence all the complaints.

The recall is just to change the sleeve. To remove the strap line on the top of the front cover.

"Transmitting for the first time in stunning High Definition"

and to put somewhere on the sleeve, probably in very small print, it's an upscale of an SD master.
Au contraire.


"22 May 2017

ROADSHOW RECALLS THE DISH BLU-RAY
‘YOU’RE NOT HAPPY, WE’RE NOT HAPPY. LET’S GET THEM BACK AND START AGAIN.’

Dear movie fan and valued customer,
We understand that you love watching movies the way they were meant to be watched - with the best picture and sound quality. This is especially true if you have purchased Blu-ray with the expectation of a High Definition experience. We apologise that The Dish on Blu-ray was of inferior quality and did not meet your expectations. The current conversion of the original 35mm film onto Blu-ray is disappointing... and certainly not befitting one of Australia’s most cherished and admired films. Roadshow is truly sorry for this and would also like to take this opportunity to apologise to the film-makers, as we know their commitment to delivering the utmost quality is of paramount importance.

Effective immediately, we are implementing a total, national recall of all stock of The Dish Blu- ray. If you have bought a copy of The Dish on Blu-ray, please return it to your place of purchase and a full refund will be given to you.

We have also fast-tracked the production of a brand-new re-mastered version in High Definition. This time, the quality of The Dish Blu-ray will be befitting of the film itself. Where we have customer’s details, we will personally inform you of the release date of the new remaster.

Once again, our sincere apologies,
The team at Roadshow"
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:38 AM   #105
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I dont think keeping this disc out there is the right thing to do. If you dont want to return it then destroy it completely.
Haha, it was a joke! I would never pass on this war crime of a transfer to anyone.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:42 AM   #106
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Took mine back to JB today, they had recall notice about the issue.
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Old 05-26-2017, 05:03 PM   #107
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good on roadshow for doing the proper thing, though lets see what the second attempt looks like. I would like a Blu of the movie if done properly
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Old 05-27-2017, 01:48 AM   #108
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I saw that note from Roadshow on JB's counter, "If You're Not Happy, We're Not Happy." For me, that is total BS.

Fans of Power Rangers tell them we're not happy with their attitude and quality of work with the DVDs, and they respond with "That's your opinion, but like it or not, WE'VE got the rights!"

When I mentioned to them that almost two years after the fact, they hadn't released all of a season, they said "Yeah, so what?"
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:41 AM   #109
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No news that I know of. If anything it's promising that it's taking so long, it means they're not just going to repackage the old master, hopefully the remaster will be worth it.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:42 AM   #110
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bumping up a few months old thread, has there been any kind of updates from either working dog or roadshow about when we might see the re-release of the dish on blu?
I have the email correspondence I had with VR from Late May, pretty much promised a copy would be sent to me when it is ready to go.
No. I called about it a couple of weeks ago. Left a message. Never heard anything back.
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:56 PM   #111
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I had never seen this movie and was looking into grabbing the bluray. My resulting frustrations led me to this forum where the recall was detailed. I thought I might add my two cents.

Here is where amoergosum helpfully provides A/B comparisons between a 720p "webrip" and the bluray. It is recognized that they used the same master.

Well, I think I can confidently suggest that what has actually happened here is that for reasons we may never know, Roadshow actually used said 720p webrip as their source for the creation of the bluray itself. The compression artifacts from the 720p images have been faithfully reproduced in the bluray, and the nature of the bluray's resulting compression artifacts positively scream "multi-encoded". The fact that their upscale from 720p to 1080p needlessly introduced aliasing artifacts on top of everything else is just a tragic bonus.

The point is that there is quite simply nothing accidental or incompetent about deliberately using a sub-par digital video from some website as your source master for a bluray. As far as I'm concerned, what needs answering is whether they did this because they knew they wouldn't have a real master in time, and whether they will in fact ever have one.

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I had never seen this movie and was looking into grabbing the bluray. My resulting frustrations led me to this forum where the recall was detailed. I thought I might add my two cents.

Here is where amoergosum helpfully provides A/B comparisons between a 720p "webrip" and the bluray. It is recognized that they used the same master.

Well, I think I can confidently suggest that what has actually happened here is that for reasons we may never know, Roadhouse actually used said 720p webrip as their source for the creation of the bluray itself. The compression artifacts from the 720p images have been faithfully reproduced in the bluray, and the nature of the bluray's resulting compression artifacts positively scream "multi-encoded". The fact that their upscale from 720p to 1080p needlessly introduced aliasing artifacts on top of everything else is just a tragic bonus.

The point is that there is quite simply nothing accidental or incompetent about deliberately using a sub-par digital video from some website as your source master for a bluray. As far as I'm concerned, what needs answering is whether they did this because they knew they wouldn't have a real master in time, and whether they will in fact ever have one.
Wow that's freekin abominable, even by Roadshow standards. How thet could give this the green light is simply mind boggling.
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I'm not entirely sure where this outrage is suddenly being derived from? Roadshow freely admitted to using a dated, SD PAL source and throwing it on the Blu-ray. The 720p Webrip is an upscale itself. They didn't download a torrent file and use that. They had the source master, which they apparently deemed "good enough" despite being SD.

Settle. No need for conspiracy theories. If Roadshow's remaster never materialises, then I guess I'll just import the UK DVD with all the extras and settle for that. Roadshow lost many thousands of dollars on this release so they've learned their lesson.
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Just the fact that Roadshow used a SD master for a 1080p Blu-Ray is ridiculous.

While I appreciate that UHD titles of new movies are getting 4K upscales from a 2K DI...These films are shot on digital cameras at 2.8K/3.2K or higher.
The resultant upscaling process is therefore a wholly digital one.

Older movies released on UHD, that are shot on film (obviously) are scanned at 4K to deliver a true 4K (2160p) HEVC transfer.

Roadshow needs to do a 2K scan and go from there, to deliver a serviceable 1080p/24 transfer.
Otherwise, they should not try to release the film again, using an SD master.
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Roadshow needs to do a 2K scan and go from there, to deliver a serviceable 1080p/24 transfer.
Otherwise, they should not try to release the film again, using an SD master.
That's what they said they were doing.
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Letís hope so.
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Letís hope so.
"We have also fast-tracked the production of a brand-new re-mastered version in High Definition. This time, the quality of The Dish Blu-ray will be befitting of the film itself."

From their email. As no full HD master exists, they'd have to go back to the OCN or an interpositive at the very least. Either way it's gotta look better than that train wreck.
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I think Roadshow have stiffed us. What a suprise. Luckily I didn't hold my breath waiting for the remastered version. Does not suprise me with these amateur Australian companies. That means you too Icon.
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Itís being rereleased on the 10th of January according to Ezydvd:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/blu-ray/The-Dish/dp/6213556
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This is going to be interesting. I'm expecting the new transfer/encode to be far superior in every way. I think Roadshow will want to do it right this time round.
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