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Old 03-28-2016, 11:00 AM   #2221
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I'm currently watching it on a 5" B&W TV powered by a potato.
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Old 03-28-2016, 12:09 PM   #2223
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:58 PM   #2224
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This is $4.50 at Target today for those interested (The Final Cut).
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:01 AM   #2225
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Finally got around to watching The Final Cut on BD (after having watched Theatrical first time in the 80's on VHS, many times on TV, Director's Cut a few times on DVD and cable).

Wasn't noticing too much difference between the Director's Cut and Final Cut initially, but thought it was a bit more violent and had longer street sequences (never noticed the girls dancing in underwear in hockey goalie masks), and I was correct in noticing these aspects.
Unicorn sequence is a bit different and shows Deckard opening his eyes (suggesting he is dreaming) after we see longer shots of the unicorn.

FC to DC differences: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4589

The Final Cut thus works the best... the penny drops more effectively at the end of the film: How does Gaff (Olmos) know he dreams of unicorns? Rather than just thoughts/daydream of them, evident in the DC.
The line "Too bad she won't live, but then again who does" suggesting to Deckard that he won't live past four years, due to being a replicant (which is in both DC and FC) works a little bit more effective, with the extended Unicorn sequence and having Deckard's eyes opening.

I concur with the creator. The Final Cut is the definitive cut. Was the first time my wife ever watched Blade Runner (I envied her, to see it for the first time without narration) and she clicked at the end and got the "Deckard is a replicant" ending. Job well done.
Also, I noticed for the first time that the line from Olmos, when he first sees Deckard after the death of Batty "You did a mans job" (or something like that), also might has suggestive connotations.

While I found that the first and second acts do labour a bit, I think Blade Runner is a great film... And with the additional Unicorn sequence added since the DC in 1992, it has had that great twist. Although, I can see how the director would have wanted us to figure that out in the original cut (he has a lot of photos and is only now developing emotions). But due to the studio forcing a happy ending, as an epilogue, the film fails to deliver that notion.

I reiterate and whole heartedly agree with Ridley Scott: Blade Runner - The Final Cut is the definitive cut.
However, one critique, to my eyes, DNR was applied a touch too much to the restoration (Final Cut) vs. seeing slightly more fine detail in the 3x Theatrical Cut transfers. I popped the Theatrical disc in right after viewing the Final Cut to show my wife the narration. I found it looked like there was slightly more fine detail and the transfer was a bit more grainy. But, the Final Cut had a perfect PQ but there was damage and debris evident on the print used in the transfer (tiny white specks throughout, not seen on Final Cut).

With a 4K scan/restoration done for The Final Cut, I would love to see a UHD BD of Blade Runner, if Warner Bros. joins Lionsgate, Sony and Fox in releasing 4K UHD BD. Blade Runner is one of only a few films I would quadruple dip for (VHS> DVD> BD> UHD BD).
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:19 PM   #2226
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The Final Cut's DNR more has to do with the low arse bitrate encode than excessive DNR.
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I prefer the Director's Cut, as certain scenes are longer. Blade Runner is such a visually beautiful and atmospheric film, that even a few extra seconds adds so much to the film.

Scenes like the noodle bar, Deckard at the piano, and many more are longer and I love it. The Final Cut lives up to its name as it cuts scenes I love down.
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I still don't like the color palette alteration of the Final Cut. The Theatrical or International is my preference.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:41 PM   #2229
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Initially, I preferred the color of The Final Cut, but started leaning towards the original and on my last viewing I preferred the overall look in general. I also think the compression is a bit better on the original versions.

I would love to see Warner go back and re-scan both versions along with higher bit AVC encoding and I think we see a nice improvement. Scanning and compressioning has obviously improved since the discs were made. Blade Runner is obviously a big catalog seller for Warner given the numerous re-releases, so I am sure they will need to re-scan is for HDR UHD. I just hope they don't leave out the original versions.
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Old 05-09-2016, 03:15 PM   #2231
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I still don't like the color palette alteration of the Final Cut. The Theatrical or International is my preference.
Yeah, the Teal ruins the beautiful colors that were in the original film. Like golden look of the scene in Tyrell's office with Rachael, or the scene where Deckard is sitting in front of the neon at the beginning. I feel like the colors are a bit washed out and everything pushes towards green in the Final Cut.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:42 AM   #2232
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Yep, my 5-disc set had the same problem, bought secondhand a couple of years ago. I searched around and found a Warner Bros. number to call, and they replaced the disc for free. Hopefully this store will swap out the Final Cut single disc edition for you.
it seems the 5 disc are back on amazon, I remember around 3 months ago that is OOP... so this new have the same problem?
I want buy the 5 Disc version, I prefer over other, is small and have a all the stuff, the only problem is the new price is too high, around $50!
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:44 PM   #2233
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The 4-disc version is better than the 5-disc. It combines the two DVDs of extras onto a single Blu-ray and even adds more extras and a better encode of the workprint.
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The 4-disc version is better than the 5-disc. It combines the two DVDs of extras onto a single Blu-ray and even adds more extras and a better encode of the workprint.
But....I read ages ago that because those DVD extras are squashed onto the disc, they dont look quite as good as the original set as they are more compressed. It does have a better workprint encode and lossless sound however. So its best to have both
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Watched The Final Cut last night. It has been 2 years since I last watched Blade Runner, and it still looks stunning! Yes, the compression could be better, but to be honest, in motion it isn't that bad. The presentation both PQ and AQ, still blows me away.
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Is there a difference in PQ between these versions I've never seen it but have heard its stunning I just want to get the best PQ and also is the movie pretty good?
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That is the question, isn't it? Seriously, though, I think it's a masterpiece; a flawed masterpiece, but a masterpiece nonetheless.

Picture/sound quality for the Final Cut and the three Archival Versions is the same across all releases (they're all repackagings of the same discs). The Workprint got a new encode and a lossless soundtrack for the 2012 release, so it looks and sounds better than the 2007 release.

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I'm of the opinion that the archival (US, International, Director's Cut) versions look the best, though some may disagree. They look more organic. The Final Cut received the most extensive restoration, but the colour timing is different and it looks a little filtered.

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Watched the original theatrical domestic version for the first time last night. The picture quality on this cut was a little underwhelming IMO, and of course the narration was awkward, but I did always want to see that original version and for the most part feel it still showcases the film's strengths and hypnotic quality.

From what I gather the international cut is literally just a few extra moments of violence which are in other cuts anyway, so probably just have the workprint version left to watch. Did see the beginning of the commentary, and seems like it is one of the more unique cuts, and also interestingly noticed right away it has a different 2.2 aspect ratio (anyone know why that is, my best guess is the transfer is sourced from a 70mm print)
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Watched the original theatrical domestic version for the first time last night. The picture quality on this cut was a little underwhelming IMO, and of course the narration was awkward, but I did always want to see that original version and for the most part feel it still showcases the film's strengths and hypnotic quality.

From what I gather the international cut is literally just a few extra moments of violence which are in other cuts anyway, so probably just have the workprint version left to watch. Did see the beginning of the commentary, and seems like it is one of the more unique cuts, and also interestingly noticed right away it has a different 2.2 aspect ratio (anyone know why that is, my best guess is the transfer is sourced from a 70mm print)
That's correct. From what I understand, it was sourced from the 70mm print that was accidentally sent to the Fairfax Theater in 1990, or at least a copy of it.
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