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Old 09-07-2007, 04:06 AM   #1
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So, is Toshiba really outselling Sony when it comes to stand-alone players?
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:08 AM   #2
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Of course they say this, they're fighting a losing battle and will try to say anything they can to sway the public in their favor. Aka FUD, freaking toshiba
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:09 AM   #3
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figures they would say something like that. They've gotta come back at sony somehow.
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:10 AM   #4
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im about to sound like a complete tool, but what is FUD? and please keep laughing to a minimum
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:12 AM   #5
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im about to sound like a complete tool, but what is FUD? and please keep laughing to a minimum
FUD stands for Fear Uncertainty and Doubt AKA Toshiba's last hope in the format war.
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:13 AM   #6
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thanks man
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:15 AM   #7
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I think both are citing correct data, just different time frames.

But of course these stats don't count the PS3, which is a major competitor with Blu-Ray standalones.
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Already posted. It is times like these where new news are being released hourly that our site gets swamped with duplicate threads.

So guys, PLEASE check before you post a new thread. MODS!


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Old 09-07-2007, 04:45 AM   #9
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So, is Toshiba really outselling Sony when it comes to stand-alone players?
The BDA claimed that BD players have been outselling HD DVD players for the past 12 weeks.

Toshiba responded that HD DVD players have sold more than BD this year.

Since Toshiba decided to misdirect rather than challenge the BDA, one must conclude they had no problem with the claim.

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Old 09-07-2007, 05:22 AM   #10
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nice comeback TOSH
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:27 AM   #11
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The BDA claimed that BD players have been outselling HD DVD players for the past 12 weeks.

Toshiba responded that HD DVD players have sold more than BD this year.

Since Toshiba decided to misdirect rather than challenge the BDA, one must conclude they had no problem with the claim.
Based on the fact that Toshiba and/or the HD DVD group was claiming 60% market share a few months ago, then later claimed 70% (although I think that was just for one window of time even though Ken Graffeo worded it in a way that left it open to interpretation as SI), I would say that now claiming 55% to 42% YTD makes it fairly likely that there has been a window recently where Blu-ray players outsold HD DVD players. The Amazon sale last week could have turned things back HD DVD's way if they weren't already though.

We may see these companies making the same kinds of claims with respect to software sales except in exactly the opposite direction (Toshiba using recent numbers and Sony using YTD or SI) if HD DVD wins this week or an upcoming week by Nielsen count.

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Old 09-07-2007, 05:33 AM   #12
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We may see these companies making the same kinds of claims with respect to software sales except in exactly the opposite direction (Toshiba using recent numbers and Sony using YTD or SI) if HD DVD wins this week or an upcoming week by Nielsen count.
I would think that HD DVD would need to win 12 weeks in a row before the equivalent situation hits.

But, yes, I'm already prepared to read the press release should HD DVD have won last week's Nielsen.

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I don't think you are going to see that release, Gary.
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The BDA claimed that BD players have been outselling HD DVD players for the past 12 weeks.


The BDA did NOT claim anything! They commented on a NPD Group research which was covered by Video Business as well.

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Old 09-07-2007, 05:56 AM   #15
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It doesn't really matter who leads in sales or who lied. The fact is that if BD stand alone sales are even just 90% of HD-DVD along with another 150K PS3 per month. HD-DVD is sunk.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:14 AM   #16
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This is corporate spin doctors at their best lol. Sony stated a fact that BD players are outselling HD DVD players in the last 12 weeks, which is true. Then Toshiba. instead of challenging the claim, basically just made another statement about the YTD sales, which is also true. I just find this humorous and silly on Toshiba's side. Im sorry the only people they are going to fool is the diehard hd dvd fans.

IMO Toshiba would have been better off if they didnt make a comment or change the subject to the 3rd gen player only. Instead, they basically said 'yeah sales are down, Sony's right, and here's more misdirection to avoid embarassment.' Im sorry but any consumer with half a brain will see right through that and choose to back the winning side.
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It's like saying "Balls of Fury" is the #1 ping pong movie in the country.
What's next, they're gonna claim they're #1 on ebay? maybe toshibadirect.com?
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