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Old 07-13-2017, 05:00 PM   #401
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2D SDR ?????
I assume he means 2D Standard Defenition Resolution, right?
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I assume he means 2D Standard Defenition Resolution, right?
Nope. Standard Dynamic Range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_dynamic_range

Plasmas don't support HDR (High Dynamic Range), while the 2016 and 2017 OLED's do. So, if you're interested in watching HDR content, upgrading to an OLED would make more sense.

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Old 07-13-2017, 11:26 PM   #403
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Nope. Standard Dynamic Range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_dynamic_range

Plasmas don't support HDR (High Dynamic Range), while the 2016 and 2017 OLED's do. So, if you're interested in watching HDR content, upgrading to an OLED would make more sense.
Thanks for clarifying, that makes total sense!
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Nope. Standard Dynamic Range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_dynamic_range

Plasmas don't support HDR (High Dynamic Range), while the 2016 and 2017 OLED's do. So, if you're interested in watching HDR content, upgrading to an OLED would make more sense.
I understand that. That's why I'm asking if I should get the lg oled. My plasma doesn't oviously have hdr 4K etc. I'm wondering is it replay worth it? My samsung plasma has been awesome and is still great. But everytime I look at the lg it looks so awesome. However that is always on demo display in the stores. For normal tv watching and sports watching and blus is it a huge upgrade or just stick with my plasma? I own some 4K blus and starting bluing the combo packs for one day. But 3700 is a lot of it's not really worth it.
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I understand that. That's why I'm asking if I should get the lg oled. My plasma doesn't oviously have hdr 4K etc. I'm wondering is it replay worth it? My samsung plasma has been awesome and is still great. But everytime I look at the lg it looks so awesome. However that is always on demo display in the stores. For normal tv watching and sports watching and blus is it a huge upgrade or just stick with my plasma? I own some 4K blus and starting bluing the combo packs for one day. But 3700 is a lot of it's not really worth it.
Personally, I have friends with OLED 3D TV's and I, too, have a Sammy Plammy.

Though OLED looks nice, I still can't justify making the big dip myself. I love how Plasma looks, but mainly because I can still notice motion blur on the OLED.

Though I'm not certain if your Sammy is 3D, here's my 2 cents on that part:
The 3D in my opinion doesn't look as good on the OLED as it does on my Sammy (but to be fair, my 3D is calibrated and the OLED wasn't) and even though the colors are more vibrant, I favor color accuracy over "pop" (my tv was ISF calibrated, the OLED was not). Also touching on the 3D, though good on OLED, but there's no 4K 3D so, the plasma still does the job fine.

In the end, I guess it's up to you and what your focus/goal is for your HT setup. Moreover, I'm sure if you ISF Calibrate the OLED, it'll look even better than the Sammy Plammy, but it may still suffer of some blur.

I think you'll be fine waiting a bit longer if 3D isn't a factor you're wanting in an OLED to allow the market to balance out and make them even more affordable/desireable.
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Personally, I have friends with OLED 3D TV's and I, too, have a Sammy Plammy.

Though OLED looks nice, I still can't justify making the big dip myself. I love how Plasma looks, but mainly because I can still notice motion blur on the OLED.

Though I'm not certain if your Sammy is 3D, here's my 2 cents on that part:
The 3D in my opinion doesn't look as good on the OLED as it does on my Sammy (but to be fair, my 3D is calibrated and the OLED wasn't) and even though the colors are more vibrant, I favor color accuracy over "pop" (my tv was ISF calibrated, the OLED was not). Also touching on the 3D, though good on OLED, but there's no 4K 3D so, the plasma still does the job fine.

In the end, I guess it's up to you and what your focus/goal is for your HT setup. Moreover, I'm sure if you ISF Calibrate the OLED, it'll look even better than the Sammy Plammy, but it may still suffer of some blur.

I think you'll be fine waiting a bit longer if 3D isn't a factor you're wanting in an OLED to allow the market to balance out and make them even more affordable/desireable.

I have the pn64d8000 which is 3d. I've used once in 6 years so I could care less about 3D. Everytime I'm in BB the lg just look so nice. Thing for me as well is id have to buy another receiver cause my only onkyo 818 doesn't do 4K pass through I believe so I'd be buyin a new receiver, tv and 4K blu player. I guess for me it's really just the appearance of the lg everytime I see it.
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the oppo 203 has separate outs so you can do one to the tv for video and one to the receiver for audio, that way you don't have to worry about buying another receiver
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the oppo 203 has separate outs so you can do one to the tv for video and one to the receiver for audio, that way you don't have to worry about buying another receiver
That's what I was about to suggest! My receiver doesn't do 3D Passthrough, so I had to buy a player with dual HDMI outs. Same applies for 4K! Cheaper options FTW!
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I understand that. That's why I'm asking if I should get the lg oled. My plasma doesn't oviously have hdr 4K etc. I'm wondering is it replay worth it? My samsung plasma has been awesome and is still great. But everytime I look at the lg it looks so awesome. However that is always on demo display in the stores. For normal tv watching and sports watching and blus is it a huge upgrade or just stick with my plasma? I own some 4K blus and starting bluing the combo packs for one day. But 3700 is a lot of it's not really worth it.
For normal viewing purposes, I'd just keep your plasma for now.

I went from a Samsung F8500 plasma to my current 65E6 OLED display. While I'll admit that normal bluray's look better on the OLED, it's not a huge difference like the 3-D and the HDR. I wouldn't have sold my F8500 and paid for the E6 for an incremental improvement in picture quality.
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I switched to 4k OLED (LG C7), and woooow I am happy.
I wanted the option for 3d, but honestly, I rarely used it. I would watch a movie in 3d about 2 or 3 times a year. It's getting phased out, and even though I wish it wasn't, I will just accept it and move on.
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So, I have new input I can provide in this argument.

I had the privilege to experience a 4KUHD/HDR film on my friend's OLED (C6).

I have to admit, I'm impressed, the night scenes immensely surprised me, and the skin tones looked pretty good too!

We watched War Dogs and demoed John Wick 2 and I have to say everything looked fantastic.

Now as to whether or not I will swap my Plasma for an OLED, the answer is no. I can't justify the cost currently and my Plasma looks phenomenal (in my opinion). However, I definitely am interested in getting one eventually when the cost is more reasonable.
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i switched to 4k oled (lg c7), and woooow i am happy.
i wanted the option for 3d, but honestly, i rarely used it. I would watch a movie in 3d about 2 or 3 times a year. It's getting phased out, and even though i wish it wasn't, i will just accept it and move on.

blasphemy!!!!

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Will Plasma owners transition to OLED? Eventually they'll have to that or quantum dot.
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