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Old 08-19-2013, 01:57 AM   #161
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Was it shown theatrically?
Barely.

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Looks like SHout did not put much effort into this release at all.
It's about what I expected. The DVDs of both movies were bare-bones, so you're not losing anything there. I don't think either movie has enough of a fanbase to warrant an investment in extras. Shout was handed masters that are probably from 2005 or 2006 but still look alright. I'm pretty certain Shout didn't do their own transfers for any of the films as part of their MGM and Universal deals. I'm not sure what kind of effort you're expecting from them. It's a double feature that's reasonably priced and looks a good bit better than the original DVDs.
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For both films (The Hot Spot and Killing Me Softly), if you already have the MGM DVDs and a top notch up-converting DVD player (say, either an Oppo or a Toshiba XA2), I'd reckon this BR release from Shout! is not worth up-grading. It seems neither film has been remastered and--having both on a single disc--bit starved.

For The Hot Spot, I did a side-by-side comparison between the BR (playing on my Oppo 93) and DVD (Toshiba XA2), and found barely noticeable differences in image quality between the two. However, there is indeed a noticeable difference in the color palette of the two presentations, with the BR a few degrees cooler (this is not only a matter of image brightness). Of course, which color scheme one prefers is purely a matter of personal taste.

I cannot vouch for DVD players with sub-par up-converting capabilities though.
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THanks. This is the word I am trusting.
Looks like SHout did not put much effort into this release at all.
You may be trusting the word, but what is written above isn't true. I am yet to see a DVD release upconverted on a standard 50+ screen that does not break down. Using a projector moves the debate on an entirely different level - the difference is like night and day.

And the statement that the film, or both of them for that matter, are bit-starved is a complete nonsense.

The facts are these:

1. The transfer does come from an older master.
2. No one has tried to do additional digital corrections on it - what is on the transfer was inherited from the master.
3. It is easy to tell that the transfer comes from an older master, but the film does have an organic look.

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HOT SPOT could've used subtitles.
Yes. This I agree with.

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Was there an unrated version of The Hot Spot? I never owned the dvd version & probably only seen the movie once or twice in the early 90's when it was on cable either Showtime or Cinemax but I always remembered it having more Jennifer Connelly topless shots than just one scene or so I thought.
No. There was only one release. Later on, after the initial run, MGM re-pressed the same disc with a different cover.

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Old 08-19-2013, 06:08 AM   #163
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You may be trusting the word, but what is written above isn't true. I am yet to see a DVD release upconverted on a standard 50+ screen that does not break down. Using a projector moves the debate on an entirely different level - the difference is like night and day.

And the statement that the film, or both of them for that matter, are bit-starved is a complete nonsense.

The facts are these:

1. The transfer does come from an older master.
2. No one has tried to do additional digital corrections on it - what is on the transfer was inherited from the master.
3. It is easy to tell that the transfer comes from an older master, but the film does have an organic look.



Yes. This I agree with.



No. There was only one release. Later on, after the initial run, MGM re-pressed the same disc with a different cover.

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Old 08-25-2013, 06:45 AM   #164
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Was there an unrated version of The Hot Spot? I never owned the dvd version & probably only seen the movie once or twice in the early 90's when it was on cable either Showtime or Cinemax but I always remembered it having more Jennifer Connelly topless shots than just one scene or so I thought.
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No. There was only one release. Later on, after the initial run, MGM re-pressed the same disc with a different cover.

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The original DVD was mislabeled unrated?
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The original DVD was mislabeled unrated?
Hello whotony,

There was only one release. There were no special editions, mislabeling, unrated releases, etc. However, at one point MGM repressed the the same disc with a different cover. Most likely they sold whatever stock they had. This disc was sold in virtually every Best Buy.

See below: Cover 1 was for the original release. Cover 2 was for the re-pressed version. (Ugly cover).

I am not aware of a third release -- unrated or non-rated -- being produced. The initial Rated R release is what MGM was selling in the U.S. Once these two sold out, the disc went OOP. This was it for the U.S..

I bought my disc (first edition) on release date. This I remember very well because I waited for this film to come out.

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Old 08-25-2013, 12:18 PM   #166
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Don Johnson ported over his acting style from Miami Vice over to this film which was shot around the time the hit cop show was wrapping up for good in '89. Then he sort of quietly disappeared for much of the 90's. Actually, the only other movie I've seen him in after HOT SPOT was in Tarantino's Django Unchained. What else has he done that's not a cameo role?
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Don Johnson ported over his acting style from Miami Vice over to this film which was shot around the time the hit cop show was wrapping up for good in '89. Then he sort of quietly disappeared for much of the 90's. Actually, the only other movie I've seen him in after HOT SPOT was in Tarantino's Django Unchained. What else has he done that's not a cameo role?
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Don Johnson was one of the villains in Machete and did a really good (but little-seen) Vietnam film called Cease Fire in the mid 1980's.

Anyway, I have this one on VHS and DVD (as well as the score album) and even though I didn't like Killing Me Softly (aka the film that destroyed Chen Kaige's career), I will pick this one up when the price is right.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:22 PM   #169
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I watched this yesterday and can say after comparing a few shots after with the dvd that the BD does look much better. I was worried when it started in a flurry of heavy grain and artifacts, scratches, damage, etc that it was gonna suck, but it got much better. Then that opening is even dirtier and uglier on the dvd!
The color scheme is kinda annoying, although for it being a noir film, I'm thinking the darker look of the BD is most likely the intended look. Not sure if all that warm color should be turned down with the brightness though, the very end shot looks straight up wrong and ****ed. Thankfully that' the only one that really bugged me, the scenes that matter look fine and I'll say it until I die, Virgina Madsen has never been hotter than in this movie! Jen Con hasn't been hotter either.
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