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Old 02-11-2013, 05:54 PM   #741
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What was changed was Nemo's world. Living space via 3D opening up to a universe-like environmental feeling. The 2D version may have been created about "10 years" ago, but it's is about 100 years later since "Méliès footage" was made and converted for Hugo's production.
I wasn't talking about the Melies footage, that is what 1 minute of the film?

The entire film is made better by the fantastic 3D. You can't even compare the depth and environments of Hugo with those of Nemo as there just is no contest. Nemo has average depth at best and NO popouts whatsoever when the material is clearly screaming out for it in a lot of scenes. I found myself almost willing things out of the screen in Nemo, but it just never happened and it should've on many occasions.
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:58 PM   #742
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I'm not having a go at you, I love Nemo it is a fantastic film. But after seeing both Sammy films the quality of the 3D in Nemo just pales by comparison. What could've (should've) been a similar amazing 3D experience just does not happen. The ocean environments in Sammy go on for miles, the ones in Nemo have barely any depth what so ever. While I love Nemo as a film (and it is certainly better than both Sammy's as a movie) the 3D is not even in the same boat (pun intended.
Well, haven't seen the Sammy films, never even heard of them until this thread. Definitely on my radar now, though.

Nemo is a film about agoraphobia and claustrophobia -- it's about one character afraid to leave a space, and another character afraid not to. The film is a collision between these two ideas, and the 3D amplifies it. Again, as good as it was in 2003, it's dramatically better in 3D, as these concepts are now even more effectively presented.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:01 PM   #743
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Well, haven't seen the Sammy films, never even heard of them until this thread. Definitely on my radar now, though.
Ahhhhh that explains it. Sorry I assumed you had. I'm sure your opinion on Nemo's 3D will change greatly once you have seen the Sammys.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:01 PM   #744
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You can rent Sammy's Adventures on VUDU for like $5 or so, and then purchase it flat out to own forever for $17.99 if you have a PS3 or some other method to watch it that way. I just bought it that way, and it works just perfectly. The 3D effects are so amazing and I, also, highly recommend watching it.
But its such low bitrate that way, much better to view the disc version surely ?

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Old 02-11-2013, 08:08 PM   #745
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But its such low bitrate that way, much better to view the disc version surely ?
I tried to watch Sammy 2 in low res and gave up after 15 minutes.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:59 AM   #746
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I'm pretty new to the 3-D aspect of blu-rays and don't know much of the tech terms but from I cant see My ratings go...

1. Avatar - By far the best 3D I have in my collection, Great depth and rarely seems forced (purposely in your face just because it's 3D).

2. Prometheus - Pretty much same as Avatar

3. Dredd - Certain shots weren't that great but the slowmo drug scenes were fantastic.

4. Avengers - Wasnt that big of a fan as most for this movie in 3D. I felt like the entire movie was just mediocre with it's 3D

5. Amazing Spider-Man - Same as Avengers but worse. I just felt like there wasnt much depth in this movie at all in 3D, enjoyed it more in 2D
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #747
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17.) Prometheus (7) mad because this should have been full screen
You gotta be kidding.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:15 AM   #748
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Hi all, I figured I make a post that lets you share what 3d media you own , and rating each one (1-10, or description). I will start off with mine as an example. Enjoy !

Judging from 42 inch Vizio 3D with polorized passive (sensio 3d)

Bluray 3D
1.)Titanic (9)- great sense of depth, THE STANDARD for conversions and 3D
2.) Avatar (9) - Very well done, CGI pops out, great depth. overdone story line.
3.) Hugo (9) - Interesting story, great depth, some ghosting.
4.) Finding Nemo (9) - All CGI, ok story, lots of popout, deep and immersive.
5.) Tron Legacy (8.5)-Great depth,annoying letterbox and fullscreen switch's
6.) Avengers (8.5) - Fun, lots of effects and pop out. Ok post conversion.
7.) John Carter (8.5) - Fantastic Scifi, 3D is deep, some ghosting.
8.) Resident Evil Afterlife (8.5) -good depth, pop should have been fulll screen
9.) Resident Evil Retribution (8.5) - shit story, good depth, pop, no full screen
10.) The Amazing Spiderman (8.5) - Good story, pop, some ghosting
11.) Captain America (8.5) Ok conversion, why are these movies letterbox
12.) Thor (7.5) was ok
13.) Clash of the Titans (7.5) letterbox some ghosting
14.) Wrath of the Titans (7.5) Better than clash for 3d
15.) Dredd (7.5) Fun , deep, but some ghosting, blur
16.) Lion King (7.5) Well done conversion, best watched in 2d for nostalga
17.) Prometheus (7) mad because this should have been full screen
18.) My Bloody Valentine (7) deep but pop outs are not as effective
19.) Immortals (6.) Good film in its own right, 3d is not deep and effective
20.) Conan The Barbarian

XBOX 360:

1.) Call of Duty Black Ops 2 (8) DEEP single player 3d, good use of 3d in multiplayer but degraded quality . Best played if a precise option is on your tv to adjust the controller and video lag. NO CROSSHAIRS make a difference.
2.) Silent Hill Downpour (8) deep 3d, really no loss of quality.
3.) Assassins Creed 3 (7.5) Multiplayer 3d is better than the campaign and very easy on the eyes, campain is blocky, and headache inducing
4.) Call of Duty Black Ops (1) Shitty 3d, unplayable
5.) DOOM 3 BFG (1) dont waste your time for 3d , too much ghosting!

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3DXSTAR (7.5) very deep but not updated much
I assume you know this, but ghosting is a display issue, NOT a fault of the transfer/disc.

I also dont get your "should have been full screen" comments since those films have a scope OAR and are already exactly as they should be. Are you under the impression that these have a 1.78 OAR because that is not the case.

Best 3d disc in my collection is probably Sammys Adventure.

Not sure about worst.

Avatar is the most overrated 3d disc IMO.

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Old 02-14-2013, 08:04 AM   #749
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am I crazy for refusing to buy 3d movies that were originally 2d? I'm including cg films like Finding Nemo. I feel that if the director didn't even think of 3d it's moot in artistic license, and just a money grab.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:58 AM   #750
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Avatar is the most overrated 3d disc IMO.
How is it overrated? Technically it's still the reference title for 3D life action. Unfortunately the movie itself is not quite up to snuff, to put it mildly.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:47 PM   #751
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i think legends of ga'hool is pretty awesome for 3d. Up there with Avatar.

wasn't really impressed with John Carter and Underworld
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #752
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i think legends of ga'hool is pretty awesome for 3d. Up there with Avatar.

wasn't really impressed with John Carter and Underworld
I agree. Up there with Sammys for me
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:37 PM   #753
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You can adjust Doom 3 BFG'S 3D in the games menu to fix the crosstalk.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #754
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How is it overrated? Technically it's still the reference title for 3D life action. Unfortunately the movie itself is not quite up to snuff, to put it mildly.
Overrated strictly from a 3d depth and pop out perspective, both of which are nothing special. I have watched Avatar in 3d 3 or 4 times now (I really enjoy the experience overall for film/audio/video) with 3 different projectors since I got it over 2 years ago. When I first watched it on my RS40 being new to 3d, it was impressive. As I have revisited the 3d on this title over time and having experienced more 3d in general with my RS45 and now BenQ W7000, the 3d just cant compete with the best 3d titles out there. Titles like Flying Swords of Dragonsgate, Hugo, most of the IMAX films and of course a bunch of animated films all have superior depth and/or pop out. There is nothing reference as far as Avatar goes and 3d in light of the competition IMO.

Oh, I also just watched a good chunk of Avatar again after setting up a little HT system for a family member which consisted of a Panasonic VT50 65" set. Once again the 3d is nothing special strictly from a depth/pop perspective. Throw on Avatar then throw on something like Flying Swords of Dragonsgate, Under the Sea, Madagascar 3, Sammys Adventure, etc.......there is absolutely no contest.

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Old 02-14-2013, 06:09 PM   #755
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You can adjust Doom 3 BFG'S 3D in the games menu to fix the crosstalk.
I thought the 3d in D3bfg Edition was sloppy, something was just off about it. The parallax adjustment was a nice feature... tough to explain.. Kind of like there was minimum nonadjustable space between the left and right cameras, and what you could adjust just pulled the images further apart or closer together either A sinking the picture further into your tv or B pulling it further out of the TV, but at no time did I feel the adjustment increased the overall parallax. The depth layers were weak to reference the Z dimension - i've always been a Doom fan, *IDGOD* :P, it was fun to revisit D3 and beat the snot out of it again for old time sake but after a short time I dumped the 3d and played it through in 2d.

The latest Black Ops, that was a good 3D FPS. And a comparable experience to better explain the difference I'm referring to with Doom.
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I try every games 3D and then play it in 2D. Adjusting Doom got ride of all the crosstalk and still had good depth but gaming in 3D makes my head swim.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:35 PM   #757
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I also dont get your "should have been full screen" comments since those films have a scope OAR and are already exactly as they should be. Are you under the impression that these have a 1.78 OAR because that is not the case.
I agree with him that they should be full screen (16:9). I watch 3D from 10' on a 120" screen. The screen fills my vision and the 3D is fully engaging.
What I believe he's saying is that 3D movies intending to be released in 3D, whether filmed in 3D or converted, should be 16:9 and I totally agree. Wide screen ruins the 3D effect on a big screen because you now have black bars in your field of view instead of an immersive picture.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:31 AM   #758
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I agree with him that they should be full screen (16:9). I watch 3D from 10' on a 120" screen. The screen fills my vision and the 3D is fully engaging.
What I believe he's saying is that 3D movies intending to be released in 3D, whether filmed in 3D or converted, should be 16:9 and I totally agree. Wide screen ruins the 3D effect on a big screen because you now have black bars in your field of view instead of an immersive picture.

I completely disagree with both of you. I watch 3d on a 9' wide 2.35 screen and 2.35 3d is more immersive vs 1.78 on my setup. Having said that, I always push for OAR no matter if its 3d or 2d.
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Favorite 3D Movies:
1. Madagascar 3
2. Hugo
3. Avatar
4. Tangled
5. Prometheus

Least Favorite 3D Movies:
1. Yogi Bear (Stellar 3D, but awful, awful movie)
2. Priest (Awful 3D, poorly realized movie)
3. A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas (Awful depth, supremely overrated)

Favorite 3D Games:
1. Uncharted 3
2. WipEout HD Fury
3. Gran Turismo 5
4. MotorStorm Apocalypse

Least Favorite 3D Games:
1. Batman: Arkham City (Awesome game, fake 3D)
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:23 PM   #760
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The best 3D game I've played is Child of Eden on the PS3, it is mindblowingly good.

It is the Sammy of gaming with amazing visuals and the highest popout per second ratio of any 3D product I have ever seen.

Fun gaming experience too

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