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Old 11-06-2013, 09:58 PM   #1261
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As i recall he goes into a tunnel as a young man then in a room it shows him as an old man lying on his death bed and points at something then theres the scene of a baby.

Made no sense to me what so ever
And the sequel doesn't help at all.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:35 AM   #1262
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As 12 minutes have been cut from this BD, I am curious if the important line, "My God, it's full of stars," towards the end of the movie are missing from this BD, as they were missing on the DVD and the VHS releases of this film many years ago. I had been told that Kubrick tinkered with 2001, cutting and shortening the film mercilessly until he died.
So, is that line missing from this BD, or is it back in the film on this release?
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:44 AM   #1263
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I am new at this. Please be patient.
As 12 minutes have been cut from this BD, I am curious if the important line, "My God, it's full of stars," towards the end of the movie are missing from this BD, as they were missing on the DVD and the VHS releases of this film many years ago.
That line was in Arthur C. Clarke's book and so they put it in the sequel 2010, but was never part of the released version of 2001, and I don't think there's any evidence that it was part of the script or that Kubrick filmed it.
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I had been told that Kubrick tinkered with 2001, cutting and shortening the film mercilessly until he died.
Where did you hear that? Apparently Kubrick did cut 17 minutes between the premiere and the general release, but I think the version on blu/DVD/VHS has always been the same as the version that was shown on the movie's general release in 1968.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:11 AM   #1264
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I am new at this. Please be patient.
As 12 minutes have been cut from this BD, I am curious if the important line, "My God, it's full of stars," towards the end of the movie are missing from this BD, as they were missing on the DVD and the VHS releases of this film many years ago. I had been told that Kubrick tinkered with 2001, cutting and shortening the film mercilessly until he died.
So, is that line missing from this BD, or is it back in the film on this release?
All of this is untrue.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:11 AM   #1265
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I am new at this. Please be patient.
As 12 minutes have been cut from this BD, I am curious if the important line, "My God, it's full of stars," towards the end of the movie are missing from this BD, as they were missing on the DVD and the VHS releases of this film many years ago. I had been told that Kubrick tinkered with 2001, cutting and shortening the film mercilessly until he died.
So, is that line missing from this BD, or is it back in the film on this release?
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All of this is untrue.
I'm not sure what Kubrick did before he died, but I would imagine that Rizor is correct about the line; there are no stars when entering the stargate (where Bowman would have spoken those words), nor until he exited the light tunnel several minutes later.
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:50 PM   #1266
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That line was in Arthur C. Clarke's book and so they put it in the sequel 2010, but was never part of the released version of 2001, and I don't think there's any evidence that it was part of the script or that Kubrick filmed it.

Where did you hear that? Apparently Kubrick did cut 17 minutes between the premiere and the general release, but I think the version on blu/DVD/VHS has always been the same as the version that was shown on the movie's general release in 1968.
According to the first comment down from that site you link to, the current blu-ray is a "ghastly shade of green". Shame - I wasn't aware the film's color timing was tinkered with for the blu-ray. I wish they would stop with that nonsense.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:12 PM   #1267
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According to the first comment down from that site you link to, the current blu-ray is a "ghastly shade of green". Shame - I wasn't aware the film's color timing was tinkered with for the blu-ray. I wish they would stop with that nonsense.
I wouldn't necessarily trust a random commenter, the screenshots on blu-ray.com don't look particularly green-tinted, although it's possible the original movie featured brighter colors with more red/blue. Even if the colors of the blu ray are slightly off it wouldn't necessarily mean the color timing was tinkered with, in some cases where a blu ray's colors are off it's because the print or negative they used had its colors shift due to age, and the people making the blu ray failed to do the right sort of correction.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:14 PM   #1268
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Again, a proper 8K master, which is what this film deserves, would solve many of the issues that are present in the BD.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #1269
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In 1968, when Stanley Kubrick was asked to comment on the metaphysical significance of 2001: A Space Odyssey, he replied: "It's not a message I ever intended to convey in words. 2001 is a nonverbal experience...I tried to create a visual experience, one that bypasses verbalized pigeonholing and directly penetrates the subconscious with an emotional and philosophic content."
"bypasses verbalized pigeonholing"...

now that is poetry, ladies and gentlemen...
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #1270
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I wouldn't necessarily trust a random commenter, the screenshots on blu-ray.com don't look particularly green-tinted, although it's possible the original movie featured brighter colors with more red/blue. Even if the colors of the blu ray are slightly off it wouldn't necessarily mean the color timing was tinkered with, in some cases where a blu ray's colors are off it's because the print or negative they used had its colors shift due to age, and the people making the blu ray failed to do the right sort of correction.


THIS MOVIE IS GREEN-TINTET - i have seen it on the blu-ray (AND I HAVE IT) and it's pretty obvious when they are on the moon and travel with a moon-flyer


it also notice-able if you look at the DAWN sequences -


This is true so you better start to come to Peace with it



so we have for this release


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those are some of the flaws this film have, it should BTW have the speciel features on a second disc so the codec could show unlimited PQ
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:16 PM   #1271
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In 1968, when Stanley Kubrick was asked to comment on the metaphysical significance of 2001: A Space Odyssey, he replied: "It's not a message I ever intended to convey in words. 2001 is a nonverbal experience...I tried to create a visual experience, one that bypasses verbalized pigeonholing and directly penetrates the subconscious with an emotional and philosophic content."
Thanks for quote.I certainly got that feeling when I finally 'got' the movie.

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"bypasses verbalized pigeonholing"...

now that is poetry, ladies and gentlemen...
Indeed it is.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:21 PM   #1272
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Again, a proper 8K master, which is what this film deserves, would solve many of the issues that are present in the BD.
If any film deserves that kind of treatment it is this one.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:08 PM   #1273
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THIS MOVIE IS GREEN-TINTET - i have seen it on the blu-ray (AND I HAVE IT) and it's pretty obvious when they are on the moon and travel with a moon-flyer


it also notice-able if you look at the DAWN sequences -


This is true so you better start to come to Peace with it



so we have for this release


green-tint
EE
and an upgrading from the DVD Master

those are some of the flaws this film have, it should BTW have the speciel features on a second disc so the codec could show unlimited PQ


Is it because the moon is made of cheese, green cheese?
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:03 PM   #1274
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In 1968, when Stanley Kubrick was asked to comment on the metaphysical significance of 2001: A Space Odyssey, he replied: "It's not a message I ever intended to convey in words. 2001 is a nonverbal experience...I tried to create a visual experience, one that bypasses verbalized pigeonholing and directly penetrates the subconscious with an emotional and philosophic content."
Definitely one of the greatest films ever made. Seeing it on the big screen in 70mm even with a bad print, this film has power and the finale doesn't need words to deliver that power, so I think Kubrick succeeded.
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I've never seen this film before. Is the newest Warner 30th anniversary edition the same transfer as the original 2007 release?

I found a triple pack with 2001: A Space Odyssey/Clockwork Orange/The Shining for $15 and want to buy that if it has the best transfers. I've never seen any of these movies except for parts of the Shining.

Also I've never seen Blade-Runner, were there multiple Blu-ray transfers of that film or are all releases the same (besides the different cuts of course).

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Old 01-11-2014, 07:59 PM   #1276
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I've never seen this film before. Is the newest Warner 30th anniversary edition the same transfer as the original 2007 release?

I found a triple pack with 2001: A Space Odyssey/Clockwork Orange/The Shining for $15 and want to buy that if it has the best transfers. I've never seen any of these movies except for parts of the Shining.

Also I've never seen Blade-Runner, were there multiple Blu-ray transfers of that film or are all releases the same (besides the different cuts of course).

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AFAIK, the blu ray transfers are the same for all blu versions of 2001 and Blade Runner
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:27 PM   #1277
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I've never seen this film before. Is the newest Warner 30th anniversary edition the same transfer as the original 2007 release?

I found a triple pack with 2001: A Space Odyssey/Clockwork Orange/The Shining for $15 and want to buy that if it has the best transfers. I've never seen any of these movies except for parts of the Shining.

Also I've never seen Blade-Runner, were there multiple Blu-ray transfers of that film or are all releases the same (besides the different cuts of course).

Thanks!
They are all the original transfers. With the Warner three pack, it's the three original discs.

For Blade Runner, they all stem from the original 2007 release where The Final Cut was given more remastering compared to the theatrical/director/international cuts (those three cuts use brand seaming). However, it should be noted that while the workprint version is the same transfer, it was re-encoded from VC-1 to AVC for the digibook release.
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:44 PM   #1278
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A little late, but I finally saw this.
Took the DVD out of the library.
Liked it. So I bought the blu-ray.

This must've been awesome when it first came out! The effects must've been insane!

In a way I wish I'd seen it when I was younger, but if that was the case, I might not have liked it (meaning, I might not have been ready, or, might not have liked the slow pace). So in a way, I'm glad I never saw it before now.
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In a way I wish I'd seen it when I was younger, but if that was the case, I might not have liked it (meaning, I might not have been ready, or, might not have liked the slow pace). So in a way, I'm glad I never saw it before now.
I'll never forget the first time I saw it. I rented it from a local store called Video Castle in 1997 and the tape broke a few seconds into it after playing strange and distorted. The Blu-ray is certainly a step up from that, lol.

(I had some bad luck with 2001, when I got the Criterion CAV set in 2002 it had all these little pinholes in the discs and they didn't play right, luckily the site I bought it from I think Discount Laserdisc sent me another copy with undamaged discs)
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I've just received a notice that 2001 will be showing here in Sydney, Australia, in a week's time in a revivalist cinema with a proper 70mm screen. They're advertising it as being in "remastered HD Digital", but I'm not sure what that actually means. (A digital projection of the master used for the BD? Or something newer?)

Anyway. Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood are going to be in attendance, and do an audience Q&A.

And ... it's already sold out.
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