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Old 03-29-2017, 04:09 AM   #21
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Thanks for the detailed reply. It help's narrow down the choices.
Now, the reason I wantd to get a 1920*1200 projector is for films that have larger aspect ratios like 1.66:1, or IMAX 1.44:1.

There's a Blu-ray of The Dark Knight trilogy, where the IMAX scenes of TDK and TDKR have been presented as Bonus with the full 1.44:1 AR. I believe something similar will also be done for Interstellar and Dunkirk in the future. So a PJ that can project a larger height than 1080p would've suited that purpose. Plus, there are a lot of 1.33:1 IMAX DVDs taken straight from the 1.44:1 IMAX versions and then there are open-matte DVDs of films like Jurassic Park, Apollo 13, The Mask (1994), The Dark Knight, The Da Vinci Code. So, those should also look good, if not great, on my wall/screen.

Regarding audio, what's the best 7.1/5.1 soundbar to go with the BenQ PJS above? Thanks.

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Old 03-29-2017, 04:21 AM   #22
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With a room like that you'd be better off using the long
Wall with a 169 120 or 135 in. Screen. A sceen is mandatory for a mind blowing presentation and a
Short throw projector, Dlp's the only way to go with 3d.
Benq's w1080st w1085st and the latest ht2150 which is
A short throw. If you can't go in that direction you can
Squeeze a 120 in. Screen in the other direction. Still,
Your throw distance is still short for that size screen.
Because benq's standard throw projector's have the shortest throw available,you could hang one just behind
You at 10.5+ feet from the screen. A w1070 w1075
Ht2050 ht3050 or the ht4050 would all look like a120 in.
Plasma with no cross talk. One way or another you'll
Have to paint the walls a dark color or the projector will blow you right out of there. Except for the ht4050 the
Rest of the projectors with a, lets say a fixed 120 in.
169 elit screen would fit in your budget. Talk about
Virtual reality!
P.S: Do the PJs you suggested have the 3-chip DLP or color wheel? Which is better, chip based PJs better or color-wheel based PJS? What about Sony's SXRD projectors? I'm asking because I heard color-wheel based DLPs cause eye strain when watching active 3D.

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Old 03-29-2017, 02:03 PM   #23
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P.S: Do the PJs you suggested have the 3-chip DLP or color wheel? Which is better, chip based PJs better or color-wheel based PJS? What about Sony's SXRD projectors? I'm asking because I heard color-wheel based DLPs cause eye strain when watching active 3D.
A friend of mine has a Sony SXRD projector and he sees no crosstalk/ghosting.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:01 PM   #24
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Ideally with a pj, the object is to make it appear like your
Watching a huge monitor. The black velvet frame absorbs
Minor framing imperfections. Take a 169 screen, using
Either a test screen or a 1.78.1 movie lets say avatar and
Set up the pj so theres about a half inch over scan on the
Velvet all the way around the screen using no keystone
Adjustments if possible. When you watch the dark night
You'll have black bars on the top and bottom in the 2.35.1
Parts of the movie and when it goes to imax the picture
Wil fill the screen as if you were watching a monitor.
You can buy screens in any aspect ratio and pj's designed
For 1.33.1.....but then your saddled with that configuration. Bad idea. The best way to go for home
Theater on your budget is 169. As for the different kinds
Of pj's in your budget that will work in your room there
Are very few. I've been watching 3d on a daily basis on
Dlp's since 2010. I've only encountered eye strain in
Movies with terrible 3d to start with or when trying to
Push a 2d to 3d converter to hard. Then of course theres
The raibow effect people complain about. This is why
I run benq pj's. In layman's terms they have twice as many
Segments on their wheel as other single chip pj's and then
They spin it twice as fast which pretty much eliminates
The rainbow effect for those people prone to them.
I know this because I'm one of those people and i'd trade
That tiny flaw for mountains of cross talk any day.
single chip technology has the sharpest picture of all
Designs in your price range. When using 3 chip design's
They need to be focused into one spot. It has its advantages but focus is not one of them. 3 chip pj's are
Pretty much out of your budget any way. Sony pj's are
Good but again , expensive and I don't think they make one that will fit your environment. You could go to
Projector cenntral's webb site. they have a throw distance calculator .Pretty easy to use. Scroll through the pj list,
Find the pj your interested in and it'll show you what will
Work in your environment. Remember you have to take
Into consideration the space for the pj and some space behind the pj . The calculator measures from the lenses.
I should also mention, you should always hang the pj
In a dedicated home theater. Last note, no matter what
Kind of pj you buy, setting one up correctly is like
Building a giant dlp tv. If you try and cut corners like not
Using a sceen, not hanging the pj or using a lot of
Keystone to make up for poor pj placement, your rig will
Not deliver. If you want awesome 3d you need to set it
Up as professional as you can. A perfect set up will
Deliver a picture you never would have believed possible.
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As for audio, your rig would be practically virtual reality.
I think that rig would warrant a receiver with full
Surround.
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:52 PM   #26
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@Battail, thank you so much for the valuable advise.
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Old 03-30-2017, 08:14 AM   #27
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P.S: Do the PJs you suggested have the 3-chip DLP or color wheel? Which is better, chip based PJs better or color-wheel based PJS? What about Sony's SXRD projectors? I'm asking because I heard color-wheel based DLPs cause eye strain when watching active 3D.
You have 3 different TYPES of PJ's using different technology.
PJ's
DLP - Digital Light Processing - these are the most expensive- they come in 3 Chip [one for Red, Blue, Green] and one chip [colour wheel], these chips have thousands of tiny mirrors on them that reflect the light, the 3 chip don't show rainbows, they also are the least likely of all the PJ's to show artifacts when doing 3D, as they also happen to be the brightest type of PJ.
The one chip versions are where some people see the rainbow effect as they reflect the light through a colour wheel.....Both of these PJ are way out of your price range, even secondhand.

Next you have LCOS or LCoS [same thing] which is Liquid Crystal on Silicon.
This technology uses a miniaturized reflective active-matrix liquid-crystal display or "microdisplay" using a liquid crystal layer on top of a silicon backplane. It is also referred to as a spatial light modulator.
Sony's SXRD panels use this technology, it could be considered a mix between DLP and LCD type projectors.
Likewise JVC has it's D-ILA PJ's a slightly different variation.
Of the two brands, and specifically for 3D playback, the JVC models are the best, the reason for that is on JVC's PJ's the have 3D controls for screen size , this helps reduce 'Floating Window' effect when set correctly - as suffered by Dr Strange 3D version as a example, and more importantly, the JVC PJ's have a 'Crosstalk' control, so you can completely dial it out on discs suffering this.
Both these types of PJ are also out of your price range NEW, but if you look around, you might be able to pickup a secondhand lower rung JVC model that is a few years old that will fit the bill.....it might need a replacement lamp, but you can do that easy enough when funds allow....IMHO this is a better option than buying a newer 'Lesser PJ'.
JVC tend to upgrade their PJ's on average every 9 months, for a half upgrade, and 18 months for a full upgrade, so you tend to find quite a few different models on Ebay.....their newest models are currently doing E-Shift, which is a pseudo 4K using pixel shifting, so a lot of JVC owners are currently upgrading to these, so a lot of older model on Ebay ATM.

The third type of PJ is LCD - Liquid Crystal Display, this is old technology more suited to office powerpoint presentations, and the type of technology that you see on cheap Chinese built PJ's.....TBH, give them a miss, you will quickly find yourself dissatisfied with the picture quality after the initial novelty of having a Big Screen wears off.

As for screen to project onto, there are plenty of DIY designs that are easily built, best to stay with pure White, I found the easiest and best thing to coat a screen with is Artist's Gesso, as it has a high Mica content which reflexs the projected image better than paint, is flexible and washable, also pretty cheap and available at any Art supply shop.
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:44 PM   #28
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@blackwiggle, wow! Thanks. However, I live in India and will have to see whether these are available here.
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:02 AM   #29
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They are going extremely strong still if not more now
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