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Old 06-30-2015, 12:07 AM   #21
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It adds $10 on the 2nd screen. No option for cheaper shipping.
When I use the check out with paypal link, it takes me to the paypal payment page and there is no shipping indicated. Once you click pay now does it take you to another page? I see where there is a second page with shipping through normal checkout, but not the paypal checkout.
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When I use the check out with paypal link, it takes me to the paypal payment page and there is no shipping indicated. Once you click pay now does it take you to another page? I see where there is a second page with shipping through normal checkout, but not the paypal checkout.
Yeah 2nd page I believe, 1st page said $29.99, on the confirm order screen it was $39.99.
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Once you click pay now does it take you to another page?
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So I called them out on their ridiculous shipping cost telling them it don't cost over $3.00 to ship a bluray and they replied that they don't regulate the shipping cost.
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I backed this project on Kickstarter, and that experience made me gun shy about backing any other film projects via crowdfunding (the Orson Welles film being the first I've backed since then). Despite raising over $115,000, the project seemed to be delayed since day one, and when it became clear that Schnepp was in over his head and didn't understand what it took to make a film, he asked for another $85,000 on a different crowdfunding website (fanbacked). Then, over two years later, with the original backers still waiting to see the film, he basically showed it to everyone else first. His reasoning? That if backers saw it first, they would probably pirate it.

Basically, I wish I'd never given this guy a dime. But I suppose that is the risk you take with crowdfunding.
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Wow, I had noticed that a lot of the interview clips look very amateurish. But I hadn't realize the guy raised THAT much money. I've seen documentaries that were made for a few thousand that look better than this. You'd think for 200 grand the guy could have gotten a decent light kit.
This is my primary concern with paying for this. If I knew it was professionally done, I'd have no problem paying $30 for it.

I've had a feeling for a long time it would look very amateurish.
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The filmmakers are going to be at SDCC this year (Booth #3915) and they said they'll have copies of the Blu-Ray available for purchase. If anyone is going, it's a good way to avoid the steep shipping charges.
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So I called them out on their ridiculous shipping cost telling them it don't cost over $3.00 to ship a bluray and they replied that they don't regulate the shipping cost.
To be fair, the eBay discounted USPS rate for an average Blu-ray is $2.25. Then you have to pay for the bubble envelope, label and printing costs...then someone to physically stuff it. I didn't know it was more than $29.99 and figured shipping was built into that cost; adding an extra $10 on top to cover shipping is outrageous.

I'll wait to see reviews. Hopefully if someone here buys this at SDCC or gets it in the mail they can post up pics. I'd like to see if its physically professionally done, or if its some guy stuffing wrinkled artwork into the case and pushing on stick-on labels to bd-r discs.

Then I'd like an opinion on the quality of the picture and audio...and of course, content as well.

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The writer / director of the doc, John Schepp, is one of the commentators on AMC Movie Talk on YouTube, if you want to see what he's all about. Good show; I've been watching for a couple of years now. The Schmoes are also on there, but unfortunately the long-time Editor-in-chief, John Campea, just left the show.
I like AMC Move Talk, but honestly Campea and Schnepp are the only reasons to watch. The other guys seem to just be 'doing their job.' I'm betting Campea is heading over to Fandango or similar. According to his Facebook, he'll be starting a new show with whatever company he just go hired at. There's really no surprise. He'll be doing another 'Movie Talk' show where ever he lands. By the end of next month, I'm sure he'll be back on some other YouTube channel.

Schnepp is a great commentator, but I question the documentary only because he has Burton-esk sensibilities.
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I'll wait to see reviews. Hopefully if someone here buys this at SDCC or gets it in the mail they can post up pics. I'd like to see if its physically professionally done, or if its some guy stuffing wrinkled artwork into the case and pushing on stick-on labels to bd-r discs.
I can't speak to your other concerns, but I contacted them earlier today on twitter to ask if the disc was pressed or a bd-r, and they replied that the disc is pressed.
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I can't speak to your other concerns, but I contacted them earlier today on twitter to ask if the disc was pressed or a bd-r, and they replied that the disc is pressed.
Pressed by hand.

I'll wait for reviews. $40 is a big risk, if its good, I'll gladly pay it.
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Pressed by hand.

I'll wait for reviews. $40 is a big risk, if its good, I'll gladly pay it.
Yes, I'm going to wait as well. My guess is they will try to get as many sales as they can through their website, and then this will end up on Amazon for a more reasonable price. I was willing to blind buy this at $30, but not for $40.
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Yes, I'm going to wait as well. My guess is they will try to get as many sales as they can through their website, and then this will end up on Amazon for a more reasonable price. I was willing to blind buy this at $30, but not for $40.
Same had it in my cart, but didn't buy when I saw the $10 shipping charge. They say after the initial run it may be available on Amazon.
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I folded and ordered it, $10 shipping and all. I'll report when it arrives.
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I only have curiosity about this disc. I am just relieved these guys never got their hands on the property. Everything I have seen about this failed project convinces me it would have been a complete mess. Tim Burton directing Nicholas Cage as Superman—yikes!
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This is a review of the film from one of the screenings a few months ago in Austin. Mild spoiler alert as some topics disscussed might not be well known, but they do point out the production quality a few times. It seems the whole documentary suffers from amateur camera work. It's so odd considering it was made by industry people and a good amount of money was raised.
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This is a review of the film from one of the screenings a few months ago in Austin. Mild spoiler alert as some topics disscussed might not be well known, but they do point out the production quality a few times. It seems the whole documentary suffers from amateur camera work. It's so odd considering it was made by industry people and a good amount of money was raised.
The cynic in me says that some of the principal players (like Tim Burton) were probably paid a fee to be a part of the documentary rather than volunteering their time. Plus, perhaps rights fees were demanded by DC and/or WB for use of some of the material with a copyright. That would kill the budget right there.
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I only have curiosity about this disc. I am just relieved these guys never got their hands on the property. Everything I have seen about this failed project convinces me it would have been a complete mess. Tim Burton directing Nicholas Cage as Superman—yikes!
Tim Burton is not wrong for comic book films, the man has a brilliant film-making mind. Nicolas Cage is wrong for the role of Kal-El though, that's what makes this so interesting. Definitely not paying $30 for it though, $10 is probably the highest I would go.
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I backed this project on Kickstarter, and that experience made me gun shy about backing any other film projects via crowdfunding (the Orson Welles film being the first I've backed since then). Despite raising over $115,000, the project seemed to be delayed since day one, and when it became clear that Schnepp was in over his head and didn't understand what it took to make a film, he asked for another $85,000 on a different crowdfunding website (fanbacked). Then, over two years later, with the original backers still waiting to see the film, he basically showed it to everyone else first. His reasoning? That if backers saw it first, they would probably pirate it.

Basically, I wish I'd never given this guy a dime. But I suppose that is the risk you take with crowdfunding.
Sounds a bit fishy to me - you gave me money to make it but I can't show you what you paid for because you might rip it off. Nice way to never get another dime from people - I trust you enough to take your money but that's about it. Too bad, this actually sounded interesting and I would like to watch it but between the price and the bad treatment people like you are getting, my interest is starting to drop.
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That's really unfortunate. I have a documentary that was Kickstarted, as well. I really hope that my backers haven't felt that way about me. However, I have tried to give them updates and I most definitely will be allowing them to see the film first!
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Tim Burton is not wrong for comic book films, the man has a brilliant film-making mind. Nicolas Cage is wrong for the role of Kal-El though, that's what makes this so interesting. Definitely not paying $30 for it though, $10 is probably the highest I would go.
Don't get me wrong, I like much of Tim Burton's work. But what he had planned for this film was an abomination.
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Don't get me wrong, I like much of Tim Burton's work. But what he had planned for this film was an abomination.
Burton needs a strong script behind him, otherwise he just wigs out with artistically visual stuff. He's not a character driven or actor's director, much like Ridley Scott.
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The cynic in me says that some of the principal players (like Tim Burton) were probably paid a fee to be a part of the documentary rather than volunteering their time. Plus, perhaps rights fees were demanded by DC and/or WB for use of some of the material with a copyright. That would kill the budget right there.
Oh yeah, I don't even see that as cynical. I assumed a large chunk of the budget would go towards getting guys like Tim Burton. And I'm glad they spent the money to get him, because I think that's the kind of content we really want to see here.

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Sounds a bit fishy to me - you gave me money to make it but I can't show you what you paid for because you might rip it off. Nice way to never get another dime from people - I trust you enough to take your money but that's about it. Too bad, this actually sounded interesting and I would like to watch it but between the price and the bad treatment people like you are getting, my interest is starting to drop.
To be fair, probably at least one of the many, many kickstarter (and that other one) backers this film apparently attracted probably would have put it a torrent site. The filmmakers don't know backers personally; there's no reason they should trust them all that blindly.

...On an indirectly related note, I'm also curious about the Doomed documentary on the unreleased Fantastic Four movie. Their site's also taking purchases for DVDs and blu-rays, but from following their social media, I think they're pre-orders? It doesn't say anything about them being pre-orders or not immediately shipping, though.
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I folded and ordered it, $10 shipping and all. I'll report when it arrives.
Please post hi-res pics of the outside and inside when you get it please.

I'd also like to see some shots of the Blu-ray menus.

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The cynic in me says that some of the principal players (like Tim Burton) were probably paid a fee to be a part of the documentary rather than volunteering their time. Plus, perhaps rights fees were demanded by DC and/or WB for use of some of the material with a copyright. That would kill the budget right there.
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Oh yeah, I don't even see that as cynical. I assumed a large chunk of the budget would go towards getting guys like Tim Burton. And I'm glad they spent the money to get him, because I think that's the kind of content we really want to see here.
I agree. I just wish they could have got Cage.
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