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Old 04-01-2018, 11:51 PM   #15041
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The Alien Explorations web page has a section on Alien, with this subsection on Ash & Ripley titled Alien: The unravelling of Ash.

It quotes the commentaries from various sources.

http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co...ng-of-ash.html
Thatís an excellent site. Iíve visited it many times.

Thereís a very interesting sub-section on the ďBox AlienĒ scene, that may or may not have been filmed?
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:50 AM   #15042
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I'm kind of a noob when it comes to 4K. I didn't realize they could master a movie in 4K and then condense it to Blu-ray. Alien already looks great on Blu-ray. How much better can it possibly look on a proper 4K disc?
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:45 AM   #15043
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I'm kind of a noob when it comes to 4K. I didn't realize they could master a movie in 4K and then condense it to Blu-ray. Alien already looks great on Blu-ray. How much better can it possibly look on a proper 4K disc?
I don't know but I'm willing to find out.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:29 AM   #15044
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I'm kind of a noob when it comes to 4K. I didn't realize they could master a movie in 4K and then condense it to Blu-ray. Alien already looks great on Blu-ray. How much better can it possibly look on a proper 4K disc?
Apart from the resolution, I am given to understand that when downsampled to blu-ray, there is also a compression of the color range. With proper 4K, an expanded color range, hopefully closer to the original celluloid source, can be obtained. That said, the results may be more incremental than night and day.
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:14 AM   #15045
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Can someone please tell me how to find these deleted scenes on the blu Ray thanks
7 outtakes:
Nostromo Fly-Bys
Rise and Shine
Kane's Point of View
The Facehugger Attacks
Alien Attacks Lambert
Ripley Blasts the Alien
Firing the Engines
And is the audio commentary on the cocoon scene on the blu Ray as well.

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Old 04-23-2018, 11:41 AM   #15046
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Can someone please tell me how to find these deleted scenes on the blu Ray thanks
7 outtakes:
Nostromo Fly-Bys
Rise and Shine
Kane's Point of View
The Facehugger Attacks
Alien Attacks Lambert
Ripley Blasts the Alien
Firing the Engines
And is the audio commentary on the cocoon scene on the blu Ray as well.
You can find all of these in the 1992 ALIEN Laserdisc Archive on disc 6 of the Blu-ray set.

Go to the PART II - PRODUCTION section:

"Nostromo Fly-Bys" is in CHAPTER 7: INTRODUCTION/NOSTROMO EXTERIOR.

"Rise and Shine" is in CHAPTER 8: NOSTROMO INTERIOR.

"Kane's Point of View" is in CHAPTER 13: THE EGG.

"The Facehugger Attacks" is in CHAPTER 14: THE FACEHUGGER.

"Alien Attacks Lambert" / "Ripley Blasts the Alien" / "Firing the Engines" are all in CHAPTER 16: THE ALIEN.
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Old 04-23-2018, 01:36 PM   #15047
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I love that the take of Lambert slapping Ripley is different in the LD deleted scenes than the one they used for the alternate cut of the movie. In the LD one she never really connects, but in the movie she absolutely clatters Ripley and you can see how shocked Sigourney Weaver is when it connects.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:15 PM   #15048
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An Alien Nerds forum... I'm so onto this now!
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:35 PM   #15049
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I love that the take of Lambert slapping Ripley is different in the LD deleted scenes than the one they used for the alternate cut of the movie. In the LD one she never really connects, but in the movie she absolutely clatters Ripley and you can see how shocked Sigourney Weaver is when it connects.
Last time I viewed the supplements for the Blu-ray, I counted three different takes of the SLAP!

Agreed. The take used in the DIRECTOR'S CUT is the best.

I found it curious that a minor line of dialogue was cut from the deleted scene between Ripley and Lambert. Lambert asks "Why?" in response to Ripley's question: "Have you ever slept with Ash?" The line is intact for the 1992 Laserdisc version but clipped from the more polished and remastered alternate 2003 release.

As the edited scene is now, Lambert just answers her question without any interest.

Neither did I agree with the edited cocoon scene as used in the DIRECTOR'S CUT. Most of Ripley's dialogue is missing, and the placement of the scene is baffling. It originally occurred directly after finding the remains of Parker & Lambert - not after setting the self-destruct.

However, I did like the alternate take of the Jones & Alien encounter.
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I still don't know why Ridley chose to keep that jarring jump cut where they try to stabilize Ash's decapitated head to showing his real head. It's so obvious it takes me out of the movie every time I see it. He could've put something in between those shots to mask it.

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Old 04-23-2018, 06:46 PM   #15051
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You can find all of these in the 1992 ALIEN Laserdisc Archive on disc 6 of the Blu-ray set.

Go to the PART II - PRODUCTION section:

"Nostromo Fly-Bys" is in CHAPTER 7: INTRODUCTION/NOSTROMO EXTERIOR.

"Rise and Shine" is in CHAPTER 8: NOSTROMO INTERIOR.

"Kane's Point of View" is in CHAPTER 13: THE EGG.

"The Facehugger Attacks" is in CHAPTER 14: THE FACEHUGGER.

"Alien Attacks Lambert" / "Ripley Blasts the Alien" / "Firing the Engines" are all in CHAPTER 16: THE ALIEN.
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:19 PM   #15052
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I still don't know why Ridley chose to keep that jarring jump cut where they try to stabilize Ash's decapitated head to showing his real head. It's so obvious it takes me out of the movie every time I see it. He could've put something in between those shots to mask it.
Agreed. Iíve always felt the same way.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:15 PM   #15053
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i've also felt the same, that one and arnie's eye-optamy in the terminator as he fixes his hair in the mirror v=GTqygIWod7Y
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:20 PM   #15054
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All those fragile sensibilities being taken out of movies.
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:34 PM   #15055
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Apart from the resolution, I am given to understand that when downsampled to blu-ray, there is also a compression of the color range. With proper 4K, an expanded color range, hopefully closer to the original celluloid source, can be obtained. That said, the results may be more incremental than night and day.
Not gonna happen. It was graded to be different from the original theatrical look (not as dramatically as the Cameron sequel, but still different in some key hues).

If anything I expect the future 4K release to to diverge even more with a pandering to HDR that will further skew things.
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ponders the thought of a jaws 3(d) in 4k, lol
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i've also felt the same, that one and arnie's eye-optamy in the terminator as he fixes his hair in the mirror v=GTqygIWod7Y
I was able to suspend disbelief back in the day (both scenes, especially Ash, freaked the living sh*t out of me as a kid); now, I appreciate the handmade quality to those effects. I wouldn't change a frame. Stan Winston RIP.
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I was able to suspend disbelief back in the day (both scenes, especially Ash, freaked the living sh*t out of me as a kid); now, I appreciate the handmade quality to those effects. I wouldn't change a frame. Stan Winston RIP.
I appreciate the effects too, but not the awkward jump cut from fake Ash to real Ash. Even if it looked flawless, itís still a strange cut regardless.
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Not gonna happen. It was graded to be different from the original theatrical look (not as dramatically as the Cameron sequel, but still different in some key hues).

If anything I expect the future 4K release to to diverge even more with a pandering to HDR that will further skew things.
What? Alien was drastically altered for the 2003 DVD release and the Blu-ray mostly retained that look. It looks nothing like the original prints and is by far the film with the biggest departure from the original colors in the set.

The only reason it doesn't get crap like Aliens (which is much more reflective of the original colors) is because people were so used to the 2003 DVD and since the Blu-ray resembles it closely enough, they assume it hasn't been messed with.
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La-La Land Records, Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Music and Universal Music Special Markets present the expanded and remastered re-issue of the original motion picture score to the 1992 feature film ALIEN 3, starring Sigourney Weaver, Charles S. Dutton and Charles Dance, and directed by David Fincher. Renowned composer Elliot Goldenthal (BATMAN FOREVER, PET SEMETARY, HEAT) composes an astounding musical tapestry of suspenseful atmospherics and pulse-pounding action – featuring some of the most effective cues ever composed for the legendary ALIEN franchise. Goldenthal’s artistic triumphs here would propel him into a series of acclaimed scores to important genre films that continues today. Expanded by more than 40 minutes beyond the original 1992 album assembly (which appears here remastered on Disc 2), the presentation showcases the film score in all its glory, along with bonus alternates. Produced by Nick Redman and Michael Matessino, associate produced by Neil S. Bulk, and remastered and mixed by Matessino from original digital masters, this special 2-CD set is limited to 3500 units and features exclusive in-depth liner notes by writer Jeff Bond and sharp art direction by Mark Banning.

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CD 1

The FILM SCORE

1. 20th Century Fox Trademark
(Alien Version) / Main Title 4:53
2. Status Reports 2:59
3. The Survivor Is a Woman 1:59
4. The Wreckage 2:08
5. Lullaby Elegy (Extended Version) 5:28
6. The Cremation 4:04
7. Chow Down With the Boys 2:28
8. How Do You Like Your New Haircut? 1:46
9. The First Attack (Film Version) 1:18
10. Appreciative of Your Affections 1:45
11. That’s His Boot 2:29
12. A Mark, A Burn 0:57
13. Wreckage and Rape 2:43
14. Candles in the Wind 3:24
15. Bishop Turned On 2:29
16. You’re Going to Die Too 2:01
17. It’s a Long Sad Story / Clemens Dies 4:21
18. Andrews’ Sting /What Are We Going to Do? 4:53
19. Explosion and Aftermath (Extended Version) 3:13
20. I Have to Get to the Ship 4:17
21. In the Basement 1:33
22. Alien’s Lair 3:33
23. The Beast Within 3:12
24. Visit to the Wreckage 2:05
25. Bait and Chase (Extended Version) 4:56

Total Time – Disc One: 75:05

CD 2

THE?FILM?SCORE (Continued)

1. It’s Started 3:36
2. More Bait and Chase 2:21
3. Trap the Alien / Dillon’s Deliverance 2:04
4. Gotcha / Hello, I Must Be Going 2:29
5. Adagio 4:18

Total Score Time: 89:53

ALTERNATES

6. The Cremation (Alternate) 4:34
7. You Can Still Have a Life (Alternate) 4:04
8. 20th Century Fox Trademarks / Alien Version 1:15

The Original 1992 MCA Album

9. Agnus Dei 4:29
10. Bait and Chase 4:42
11. The Beast Within 3:10
12. Lento 5:49
13. Candles in the Wind 3:21
14. Wreckage and Rape 2:44
15. The First Attack 4:20
16. Lullaby Elegy 3:41
17. Death Dance 2:17
18. Visit to the Wreckage 2:04
19. Explosion and Aftermath 2:21
20. The Dragon 3:07
21. The Entrapment 3:42
22. Adagio 4:16

Total Time – Disc Two: 75:03
Total Time: 150:08
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