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Old 01-19-2013, 03:10 PM   #1141
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I always took the Shire to be a cashless society of bartering farmers, so civil-servants would just be paid amish-style, with community efforts to build them a house, and consumable-goods vendors and other services basically giving them a free line of credit, like diners and five-and-tens used to do with cops back in the days.
I imagine shirriffs and postmen would have been frequent guests of The Green Dragon.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:23 PM   #1142
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This made me laugh and addresses some of the issues being discussed.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:14 PM   #1143
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I imagine shirriffs and postmen would have been frequent guests of The Green Dragon.
Beats the hell out of a doughnut shop.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:09 AM   #1144
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This made me laugh and addresses some of the issues being discussed.

How The Hobbit Should Have Ended - YouTube
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:48 AM   #1145
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This made me laugh and addresses some of the issues being discussed.

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But...but...no LOTR then?

Hilarious vid!
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:24 AM   #1146
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whats that ring you put in your pocket bilbo?.!
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actually that was beautifully illustrated
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:19 PM   #1147
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Ahhh what?

[Show spoiler]Radagast ran away from a ring wraith.. he didn't fight it at all.
Nope.
[Show spoiler] At about 1:14 into the movie, Radagast is telling Gandalf about visiting Dol Guldur. He says "A dark power dwells there, like I've never felt before. It is the shadow of an ancient horror. One that can summon the spirits of the dead." Right then a wraith rises from the stone walls or a statue. The wraith CLEARLY has a CROWN. I think it looks like The Witch-King. The ringwraith has a sword and tries to strike Radagast 3 times. Each time Radagast blocks the strike with his staff. After the third time, something happens to the ringwraith and you hear a shriek and the ringwraith's sword falls to the ground.

Radagast then says, "I saw him Gandalf. From out of the darkness, The Necromancer has come." THEN Radagast flees.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #1148
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[Show spoiler]The ringwraith has a sword and tries to strike Radagast 3 times. Each time Radagast blocks the strike with his staff. After the third time, something happens to the ringwraith and you hear a shriek and the ringwraith's sword falls to the ground.
If you want to get technical, it sounds like the ringwraith fought him.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:05 PM   #1149
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If you want to get technical, it sounds like the ringwraith fought him.
[Show spoiler]The point is Radagast didn't run from the Ringwraith. They both fought each other. There is nothing in what I said that implies who attacked first. Your getting technical about nothing.

I am convinced that it was the Witch King that attacked Radagast. After blowing smoke out of his ears, Radagast gives the sword to Gandalf and says "That is not...from the world...of the living". Then at about 1:37, Galadriel talks telepathically to Gandalf and tells him to show the sword. After Elrond pulls the cloth back to reveal the blade, Elrond says "A Morgol Blade." Galadriel then says "...made for the Witch-King of Angmar".

The only logical conclusion is that it was The Witch-king that Radagast defended himself against. The same Witch-king that easily knocked Gandalf The White of his horse in ROTK. RUBBISH!!!
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #1150
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[Show spoiler]The point is Radagast didn't run from the Ringwraith. They both fought each other. There is nothing in what I said that implies who attacked first. Your getting technical about nothing.

I am convinced that it was the Witch King that attacked Radagast. After blowing smoke out of his ears, Radagast gives the sword to Gandalf and says "That is not...from the world...of the living". Then at about 1:37, Galadriel talks telepathically to Gandalf and tells him to show the sword. After Elrond pulls the cloth back to reveal the blade, Elrond says "A Morgol Blade." Galadriel then says "...made for the Witch-King of Angmar".

The only logical conclusion is that it was The Witch-king that Radagast defended himself against. The same Witch-king that easily knocked Gandalf The White of his horse in ROTK. RUBBISH!!!
The Witch King is at full strength when he fights Gandalf the White. Radagast only fights the spirit of the Witch King summoned by the Necromancer, probably how Radagast was able to fend him off quite easily
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:08 PM   #1151
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[Show spoiler]The point is Radagast didn't run from the Ringwraith. They both fought each other. There is nothing in what I said that implies who attacked first. Your getting technical about nothing.
[Show spoiler]Uh...yes, there is. You said the ringwraith has a sword and tries to strike Radagast three times (while you seem to be covering the immediate events act-for-act). And now you say they both fought each other even while your actual explanation only alludes to Radagast blocking strikes (meaning he got in no offense). Hence an implication that, technically, Radagast could easily be said to have not fought the ringwraith.

Also, my statement was meant as a somewhat playful, tongue-in-cheek comment regardless.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:46 PM   #1152
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Are you guys really debating the definition of "fought"? What's next... "is"?

[Show spoiler]Yes it was the Witch-King of Angmar that Radagast faced off with. The design of the specter and Galadrial both confirm that. And given he manages to acquire it's sword before he flees to find Gandalf to warn him of the evil that's rising in Dol Guldur, I would say he certainly came off as the winner in that fight.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:10 AM   #1153
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Are you guys really debating the definition of "fought"? What's next... "is"?
That's why I later specified my intention with what I said - that it was tongue-in-cheek - as I didn't understand why someone would be so defensive about the subject if I had made my intention clearer.

[Show spoiler]And, if it were to be debated, as for the definition of "fight" itself...I feel that it's at least a little misleading to suggest that someone who only deflected shots, blocked, etc. (everything not being offensive itself) "fought" - although the actions of the other individual do create a conflict which I feel could suitably be labeled a "fight."
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:22 PM   #1154
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The Witch King is at full strength when he fights Gandalf the White. Radagast only fights the spirit of the Witch King summoned by the Necromancer, probably how Radagast was able to fend him off quite easily
Gandalf was also "The White". He was more powerful than he was before. He is also a Maia, and the Witch-King was a man. Gandalf the Grey defeated and killed a Balrog. Gandalf the White also drove away several Ringwraiths who were attacking Faramir as he was trying to get back to Minas Tirith. My point remains: it is a contradiction.
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I just saw it again today at one of our smaller mutiplex theaters and it was packed to the gills. If you would have arrived just as the movie started with a party of three, all three would not have ended up setting together.

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