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Old 02-13-2016, 09:06 PM   #201
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Yes, that's kinda the same effect I'm talking about, it drains the colour from people's faces, even their lips. There's definitely a scene or two like that in the original US Blu-ray too (when Murray's sizing up the 'bank job'), but the effect is much too pervasive in the remastered JPN disc for my liking. It's a shame because it's beautifully film-like otherwise.

The original BD of Bad Boys suffered from the same problem which was thankfully corrected for the Mi4K re-release, seems to be the other way around with Groundhog Day though.

Mike: I dunno if the actual 4K version will suffer from the same problem, something could've changed during the downsampling of one to the other.
Have you re-watched the US BD recently? I think the problem is pretty much as bad, and the awfully processed look and overal dated transfer makes it obsolete.
There are a handful of shots where the skintones look less than desirable, but it DOES take place in winter, so maybe it was just how they looked, or the make-up?
Either way, I could never go back to the US disc now.

Again: What are you going to watch from her on in?
When are they gonna release these movies on BD?:Crossroads (W. Hill; Steve Vai),Fun with Dick & Jane (Jim Carrey, Tea L.), Man on the Moon (Jim C.),Diana Krall-LiveattheMontrealJ.F., Alien Autopsy,Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys (Jodie Foster),Housesitter(Steve M., Goldie H.),Bowfinger (S. M.), Shopgirl (S. M.),OutofTowners (S.M.),Spanglish,Odd Couple 2 (Jack L., Walter M.),Wallace and Gromit-The Curse of the Were-Rabbit,
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:09 PM   #202
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I've still got the old BD and specifically compared it back and forth, IMO the problem is nowhere near as bad on the original disc. Compare the shot early on of Murray in the road when he's being told by the cop that the road is closed, he looks perfectly normal in the old disc but seems to have some kind of liver problem in the JPN disc

Having watched the import recently I've sated my need for now, I'll just have to watch the old disc and squint a bit in future.
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Scanned it a bit, and depending on lighting it looks pretty consistent
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:34 PM   #204
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I've still got the old BD and specifically compared it back and forth, IMO the problem is nowhere near as bad on the original disc. Compare the shot early on of Murray in the road when he's being told by the cop that the road is closed, he looks perfectly normal in the old disc but seems to have some kind of liver problem in the JPN disc

Having watched the import recently I've sated my need for now, I'll just have to watch the old disc and squint a bit in future.
I just checked and I guess we will have to agree to disagree here, mate.
The JP disc is much clearer, so maybe you are now fully able to see all the details and colours, and he is out in a blizzard with nothing but a shirt on, so naturally he won't be very tanned. The difference is minute on my screen.
I would certainly love to see what it looks like on your screen, but that's not possible.
The new one is a billion times better IMHO.
When are they gonna release these movies on BD?:Crossroads (W. Hill; Steve Vai),Fun with Dick & Jane (Jim Carrey, Tea L.), Man on the Moon (Jim C.),Diana Krall-LiveattheMontrealJ.F., Alien Autopsy,Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys (Jodie Foster),Housesitter(Steve M., Goldie H.),Bowfinger (S. M.), Shopgirl (S. M.),OutofTowners (S.M.),Spanglish,Odd Couple 2 (Jack L., Walter M.),Wallace and Gromit-The Curse of the Were-Rabbit,
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:54 PM   #205
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My screen is properly calibrated so perhaps that's where our differences in perception lie. I'm not trying to change your mind by any means, you're welcome to stick with your "billion times better" disc but it's not for me. Oh well.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:17 PM   #206
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Well, mine may not be ISF calibrated, but it is calibrated according to Disney's WOW and Spears & Munsil.
As I said.....
When are they gonna release these movies on BD?:Crossroads (W. Hill; Steve Vai),Fun with Dick & Jane (Jim Carrey, Tea L.), Man on the Moon (Jim C.),Diana Krall-LiveattheMontrealJ.F., Alien Autopsy,Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys (Jodie Foster),Housesitter(Steve M., Goldie H.),Bowfinger (S. M.), Shopgirl (S. M.),OutofTowners (S.M.),Spanglish,Odd Couple 2 (Jack L., Walter M.),Wallace and Gromit-The Curse of the Were-Rabbit,
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:54 PM   #207
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Mine's a bit further along than that, having used a spectro to generate a specific correction matrix for my colorimeter which I then used with HCFR to check the accuracy of the colour temperature, grayscale, gamma and primary/secondary colours (along with confirming 100 nits brightness as per SDR mastering convention), all things which simply can't be set by eye...although the calibration discs are always a good place to start.

In other words, I trust that what I'm seeing is as accurate as possible to what's on the disc and I see a marked difference in the colour on the two GD discs. I've given it a glowing review to be sure, but upon further reflection I found the colour problems to be too distracting. It's not there all the time, don't get me wrong, but it creeps into the image here and there and as awesome as the rest of the JPN transfer undoubtedly is I just can't dig the colour.

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Don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but it looks like Netflix is using the newer 4K master. I ended up stumbling upon it the other day and did a quick comparison with caps-a-holic's pics, and it definitely matches up with the JPN blu more so than the US blu. Especially when it comes to framing (plus Phil's first suicide attempt has the vignetting that was missing on the first blu) Would still like to see Sony push more UHD catalog titles aside from Ghostbusters 1&2 and Labyrinth, so hopefully this will be one such title, especially since they already made the scan.
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Old 05-02-2016, 03:35 AM   #209
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Don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but it looks like Netflix is using the newer 4K master. I ended up stumbling upon it the other day and did a quick comparison with caps-a-holic's pics, and it definitely matches up with the JPN blu more so than the US blu. Especially when it comes to framing (plus Phil's first suicide attempt has the vignetting that was missing on the first blu) Would still like to see Sony push more UHD catalog titles aside from Ghostbusters 1&2 and Labyrinth, so hopefully this will be one such title, especially since they already made the scan.
It is on Amazon Prime also. Hopefully a 4K disc will come later this year.
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Picked this up in a 2-pack with AGE OF INNOCENCE (also Mastered in 4K) from CD Japan for cheap with some points I had. Really glad I did, this absolutely smokes the dated, inferior US transfer, which by comparison, looks like one of Sony's weaker efforts in this format altogether. It's not even a ballgame.

Will suffice when/if a UHD release happens but I'm beyond happy with the JPN release.
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Picked this up in a 2-pack with AGE OF INNOCENCE (also Mastered in 4K) from CD Japan for cheap with some points I had. Really glad I did, this absolutely smokes the dated, inferior US transfer, which by comparison, looks like one of Sony's weaker efforts in this format altogether. It's not even a ballgame.

Will suffice when/if a UHD release happens but I'm beyond happy with the JPN release.
I have that JP disc as well and it is indeed awesome. I did keep the US disc for the extras though since the JP disc is barebones.
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Is Age of Innocence good? And no burnt in subs?
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Is Age of Innocence good? And no burnt in subs?
Groundhog Day does not have burnt in subs.
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I'm curious if anyone knows the status of this on Blu-Ray? They 4K is coming out in a week or so - I assume it's a remaster? If so, will the remaster be available on BR too?
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I'm curious if anyone knows the status of this on Blu-Ray? They 4K is coming out in a week or so - I assume it's a remaster? If so, will the remaster be available on BR too?
Doesn't look like it at this point. I intend to make a three disc set with the UHD, BD, and JP BD.
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Doesn't look like it at this point. I intend to make a three disc set with the UHD, BD, and JP BD.
Which begs the question, is this 4K is a remaster? If I remember correctly, the BR was Ok and not too spectacular. So if the 4k is made from that, well...
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Which begs the question, is this 4K is a remaster? If I remember correctly, the BR was Ok and not too spectacular. So if the 4k is made from that, well...
I would imagine that the UHD transfer is from Sony's recent 4K master for the JP BD.
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I would imagine that the UHD transfer is from Sony's recent 4K master for the JP BD.
Forgive my ignorance but what is JP?

So Sony's said that the 4K release is a new Transfer? Strange that they're not saying anything about a BR.
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It's a shame they didn't redo the bundled blu-ray in this package. I don't understand Sony sometimes.
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It's a shame they didn't redo the bundled blu-ray in this package. I don't understand Sony sometimes.
It's all about money. The 2009 disc is still in print with all available extras so they saw no point in spending the money pressing new discs. Universal did the same thing with The Mummy trilogy UHD releases.
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