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Old 03-14-2015, 11:15 PM   #981
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I've already played a couple Atmos tracks back ended with IIz. Height is still impressive...sure even more once I buy my new AVR in September.

What an optimist - September?


Screw sound formats, hook me up with that POWERBALL number, home boy...you're getting secret knowledge from someplace...
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:25 PM   #982
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What an optimist - September?


Screw sound formats, hook me up with that POWERBALL number, home boy...you're getting secret knowledge from someplace...
I used to sell this stuff wholesale. I already know Denon/Marantz, Onkyo/Integra, Yamaha, Pioneer/Elite's, Sony, Cambridge (actually making a US push) and some others new models and specs already for 2015.

I can't say anything, specific, till everybody updates their various websites.

Put it this way, when I go 4K(projector) and fully-baked AVR, it will be at lower cost than Robert Zohn himself pays, to in turn, sell it to "you"...
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:51 AM   #983
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What I find hilarious...

Those of us using IIz and DSX were already on board. Then, we waited.

Sure enough, half-baked HDMI 2.0.
DTS says..."Me too..."
Auro...hhmmm, getting anywhere?(without a laughable pricetag)

I've already played a couple Atmos tracks back ended with IIz. Height is still impressive...sure even more once I buy my new AVR in September.
If Height impresses you, I wonder how DSU will improve on that? I've read that people like it a lot.

Like you, I'm getting my avr in September as well. Baked, half-baked, fried, boiled, saluted, I don't care.

I have faith though that the major players won't leave us twisting in the wind. These days are exciting for us home theatre enthusiasts and they're not gonna drop the ball. They want our money.
The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependant on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. - Galileo
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Old 03-15-2015, 06:14 PM   #984
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What is funny is all the gushing DSU is getting....from the same movies I said worked well with IIz/DSX.

I'm shocked....

What I'd like to find is something that says what the difference is between IIz and DSU(obvious 4 speaker support notwithstanding).

Some yutz over at AVS has already labelled IIz as "legacy"....

Funny, but according to Dolby, it is still current. (Denon and Onkyo have AVR that have it, and not Atmos...this year)
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:47 PM   #985
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What I find hilarious...

Those of us using IIz and DSX were already on board. Then, we waited.

Sure enough, half-baked HDMI 2.0.
DTS says..."Me too..."
Auro...hhmmm, getting anywhere?(without a laughable pricetag)

I've already played a couple Atmos tracks back ended with IIz. Height is still impressive...sure even more once I buy my new AVR in September.
How do you know that will be future proof?
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:44 PM   #986
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How do you know that will be future proof?
Futureproof

That is such a dirty word. I've always been a 2nd/3rd adopter.

Every 3 to 5 years is "AVR upgrade pace". So....2015 is year 2 of this 3-5 stretch...

I also have seven AVR setups. Once the 1008 is "replaced" it will replace either the NR708 or 807, which might replace my DTR 7.8...which would then likely move to the bedroom, where a SR707 currently is...
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Panasonic DMP BD35, Orei M2 (set region B) and Toshiba HD-A3
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:52 PM   #987
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Futureproof

That is such a dirty word. I've always been a 2nd/3rd adopter.

Every 3 to 5 years is "AVR upgrade pace". So....2015 is year 2 of this 3-5 stretch...

I also have seven AVR setups. Once the 1008 is "replaced" it will replace either the NR708 or 807, which might replace my DTR 7.8...which would then likely move to the bedroom, where a SR707 currently is...
Interesting I'm coming close to the 2 year mark with my 4520CI which the x7200w is now the replacement. Problem is whether this AVR or like will be updated enough when it is being closed out before next model refresh to address various DTS:X decoding methods and HDCP 2.2/UDTV passthrough requirements.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:25 PM   #988
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Interesting I'm coming close to the 2 year mark with my 4520CI which the x7200w is now the replacement. Problem is whether this AVR or like will be updated enough when it is being closed out before next model refresh to address various DTS:X decoding methods and HDCP 2.2/UDTV passthrough requirements.
Update for DTS X, yes(they already said there will be one)

HDMI 2.0 w HDCP 2.2? Nope, not gonna happen(this is a chip issue).
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:24 AM   #989
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Update for DTS X, yes(they already said there will be one)

HDMI 2.0 w HDCP 2.2? Nope, not gonna happen(this is a chip issue).
I heard that there is no factual info on whether the x7200w will support DTS:X, only that Denon (D&M) will answer that question after DTS:X white papers are released. There is a paid hardware upgrade available only for the x7200W for full HDMI 2.0/HDCP compliance as a FYI. Currently this model supports Dolby Atmos and Auro 3D.
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:36 AM   #990
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I heard that there is no factual info on whether the x7200w will support DTS:X, only that Denon (D&M) will answer that question after DTS:X white papers are released. There is a paid hardware upgrade available only for the x7200W for full HDMI 2.0/HDCP compliance as a FYI. Currently this model supports Dolby Atmos and Auro 3D.
I keep forgetting the 7200 wasn't in retail till December(which technically takes it into 2015 current)
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:44 PM   #991
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Dolby Atmos is average atmos(t) :P

[Show spoiler]Actually can't back that up. I just really wanted to say that.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:49 PM   #992
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When I first started to read this thread, I was certain I was going to stick with just 5.1, but now I really do want to go 5.1.4, but I doubt the wife would approve.

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^ enough of the bad jokes, thanks

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I keep forgetting the 7200 wasn't in retail till December(which technically takes it into 2015 current)
This is a image of the HDMI hardware update for the Denon x7200w, showing the size of the card:


see also this news
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The SiI9779 port processor supports:
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  • 8K 60fps video resolution as outlined in the superMHL specification
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  • High Dynamic Range (HDR), Deep Color, BT.2020
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When I first started to read this thread, I was certain I was going to stick with just 5.1, but now I really do want to go 5.1.4, but I doubt the wife would approve.
If I were living alone at home I might actually consider upgrading to an Atmos system but considering I don't (I live with the parents) and really only watch TV in my room which is really not that big of a room, I can't really get anything like that, let alone a 5.1 set up. So I'm stuck with just the TV speakers. And sadly there is no Atmos theater near me.

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If I were living alone at home I might actually consider upgrading to an Atmos system but considering I don't (I live with the parents) and really only watch TV in my room which is really not that big of a room, I can't really get anything like that, let alone a 5.1 set up. So I'm stuck with just the TV speakers. And sadly there is no Atmos theater near me.
Sounds like a good incentive to move out of home.
I would go crazy watching movies with just tv speakers
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Old 03-18-2015, 02:08 PM   #996
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It looks like ATSC 3.0 and cable/satellite in the future might use AC-4 technology. Another new receiver will be needed for decoding if AC-4 is adopted in the specs for ATSC 3.0 and QAM.


“In the future, Dolby envisions native Dolby AC-4 decoding in AVRs, “which will enable a direct bitstream pass-through and decoding on the AVR.” In the meantime, “we want to protect the investment of people buying Dolby Atmos AVRs today when the new broadcast standards roll out.” - See more at: http://www.twice.com/news/audio/how-....LgtrleB6.dpuf
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