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Old 09-24-2017, 11:24 AM   #1
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Fist of the North Star, all 152 episodes on 3 discs... something called SDBD.
I'm guessing its the standard DVD picture quality on a Bluray disc, that way they can fit like 50 episodes per disc.... thoughts?

I'm not a fan of something like that, but what about everyone else?
Naiera, very interested in your opinion here.
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Old 09-24-2017, 11:41 AM   #2
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SDBD has been done before. It is, as you suggest, standard definition on Blu-ray. 50 episodes on a BD50 leaves about 900 megabytes for each episode, which isn't really something special, but at least it should benefit from AVC encoding, rather than outdated and comparatively inefficient MPEG2 with forced fake sharpness.
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:05 PM   #3
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So do you think it's
A) don't want to spend the time and money required for a remaster or upscale
or B) they think this is the best route to go
or another reason all together. My knowledge into these things in nonexistent
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:08 PM   #4
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Maybe it's CAN'T spend the time and money. They figure it just won't work financially to remaster or upscale.

That's what I figure they figure
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:14 PM   #5
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The master used for the DVD and SDBD is based on a HD remaster from 2008. It would not be surprising if Toei hasn't given Discotek access to the full HD master, seeing as it has yet to receive a Blu-ray release in Japan.
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:16 PM   #6
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The master used for the DVD and SDBD is based on a HD remaster from 2008. It would not be surprising if Toei hasn't given Discotek access to the full HD master, seeing as it has yet to receive a Blu-ray release in Japan.
So an SD transfer, but not a bad one. Eh I can live with that.
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:27 PM   #7
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I'm curious if there's any improvement over DVD, in terms of compression based color crush or the like.
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Old 09-24-2017, 01:18 PM   #8
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The master used for the DVD and SDBD is based on a HD remaster from 2008. It would not be surprising if Toei hasn't given Discotek access to the full HD master, seeing as it has yet to receive a Blu-ray release in Japan.
So the HD master was a tv broadcast ?

regardless

the SDBD isnt new as has been said but the disco tek ones are based off what ever they have at the time - the EU ones are often so much worse

take it this BD is region A locked ?
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Wonder if they will fix the subtitle errors since there were a lot of them, like lack of lines.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:26 AM   #10
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I'm okay with stuff like this, and kind of wish that more distributors would do it.
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Since it is a Toei show SDBD is fine. We all know how Toei operates their business.
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Old 09-26-2017, 03:29 AM   #12
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Wonder if they will fix the subtitle errors since there were a lot of them, like lack of lines.
Discotek/easternstar Seems to have subtitle problems on many of their releases that I've experienced. Usually grammatical stuff. It annoys me especially since many of their shows are sub only. You'd think they'd put more work into QC.

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Old 09-26-2017, 03:38 AM   #13
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In terms of PQ, I wonder if it would actually be worth upgrading the Discotek DVDs for? Still waiting for a Blu-ray release of the 1986 movie...
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In terms of PQ, I wonder if it would actually be worth upgrading the Discotek DVDs for? Still waiting for a Blu-ray release of the 1986 movie...
I've asked this question time and time again, both to this forum and Discotech themselves, and I've never gotten a response from anyone. Is it 480p? 480i? Is further color crush via further compression inevitable with only about 900 megabytes an episode? Apparently nobody knows!
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I'm totally down for this, if the subtitles are good... but 90 bucks? seems a bit steep. I used to have the whole series on a bootleg DVD set (pretty impressive packaging though).
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I've asked this question time and time again, both to this forum and Discotech themselves, and I've never gotten a response from anyone. Is it 480p? 480i? Is further color crush via further compression inevitable with only about 900 megabytes an episode? Apparently nobody knows!
900MB? That's twice the size of the standard 720p fansub.
If they can't get a 25 minute episode of a show in great quality in AVC at only 480p, those encoders should be fired.
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I'm totally down for this, if the subtitles are good... but 90 bucks? seems a bit steep. I used to have the whole series on a bootleg DVD set (pretty impressive packaging though).
It's about $60 on Rightstuf, less with a Got Anime discount;

https://www.rightstufanime.com/Fist-...Series-Blu-ray

$60 for 155 Episodes is a great deal in my book!
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I'm okay with stuff like this, and kind of wish that more distributors would do it.
Same here. Even if it's still standard definition, I appreciate having more episodes on fewer discs as well as being on a more durable (as in scratches) format. That being said, I've never seen anything having to do with Fist of the North Star and I'm intrigued by this release. Skimmed a few episodes on Crunchyroll and it looks really interesting.
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I'm okay with stuff like this, and kind of wish that more distributors would do it.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting Urusei Yatsura in this format. Four discs vs 50 would be quite a space saver.
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I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a true HD transfer available, but considering UY does (and received a physical release in Japan), I would be quite disappointed with a SD BD release that downscales the HD source. Granted, it would still be a huge improvement over the AnimEigo DVDs, but it's just the principle of the thing.
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