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Old 07-11-2013, 07:00 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Recommended Surround Sound Setups

I have found that many new to the hobby come to the forums looking for suggestions on what they should get.

This request is in almost every official (BRAND) speakers and I am sure there are dozens of individual threads for this. I am wondering if we could have a sticky or something that members could post to, to recommend various levels of cost setups and newbies could post questions to. We could even have a template for them to copy to fill out like:

What is your budget?

What are the dimensions of the room and what is it like (windows, doors, is it open)?

What equipment do you have?

What equipment are you looking to get?


An example of a recommendation could be this:

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Fluance
http://fluance.com/product/XLHTB_Hig...m.eng-104.html - $800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780078 – Klipsch Sub $300

Def Tech setup
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882325060 – Front left right $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882325059 – Rears $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA1J70KF5428 – Center - $350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780078 – Klipsch Sub $300

Polk
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290270 x5 for $500
http://www.amazon.com/SVS-10-inch-30.../dp/B00AF88BRG – SVS Subwoofer $500

Reciever
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html
$240 (With shipping)

Total
Fluance setup = $1340
Def Tech= $1320
Polk = $1240

Maybe this has been suggested and it didn't work or was not feesible. I think it may help people on both sides of the spectrum.

Just my two cents.
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Speakers: AV123 Rocket RS 760, Preamp: Marantz SR4023, Amp: Yamaha MX 800, Turntable: Project Debut III, Player: Elite DV-47Ai, Digital files: Vista machine using iTunes

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Old 07-11-2013, 09:52 PM   #2
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Thumbs up I think it's a good idea

Makes sense to me.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:29 PM   #3
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Plus I like putting together systems for people and I'm always looking for deals. This way people could benefit from my habit!
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Sub Klipsch RT 10D, RW 12D
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Speakers: AV123 Rocket RS 760, Preamp: Marantz SR4023, Amp: Yamaha MX 800, Turntable: Project Debut III, Player: Elite DV-47Ai, Digital files: Vista machine using iTunes
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:39 AM   #4
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SO maybe we could limit the recommendations to like threads? Receivers for receiver, subs for the Subwoofers threads. Have this be a separate one for speakers.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:46 PM   #5
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Sounds good to me.. Loving my new Energy VS in Dipole mode..
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:54 PM   #6
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guess I can ask if anyone is using a Dipole/sides and Bipole/rear setup? This will be my next step in doing my setup. I'm definitely getting Bipoles but am wondering how people like the dipoles.
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guess I can ask if anyone is using a Dipole/sides and Bipole/rear setup? This will be my next step in doing my setup. I'm definitely getting Bipoles but am wondering how people like the dipoles.
You should read Big Daddy sticky thread on the subject mixing surrounds. I had these same questions a couple years back, and he decided to make a sticky out of it.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=170720

He does mention the configuration you are asking about, and he says:
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Strong Possibility of Phase Cancellation and Should Be Avoided
He has mentioned that all bi-pole would be an excellent config.

I went with all di-pole:

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Very Good To Excellent Depending on your Taste for Spaciousness of Dipoles
He also told me, I should try different configs to see which I would like best, but I started with and ended with all di-pole surrounds. So far, I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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You should read Big Daddy sticky thread on the subject mixing surrounds. I had these same questions a couple years back, and he decided to make a sticky out of it.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=170720

He does mention the configuration you are asking about, and he says:


He has mentioned that all bi-pole would be an excellent config.

I went with all di-pole:



He also told me, I should try different configs to see which I would like best, but I started with and ended with all di-pole surrounds. So far, I wouldn’t have it any other way.
The more I look at dipole and see how the sound should reflect I feel like I will miss out on the left side. There is no back wall for the sound to reflect. There's a mini hall to my door so the sound will be bouncing around in there.

I was going to get the Polks that let you switch from bi to di so I'll try it out. I'll just get one pair for right now before buying another pair.

Was going to do this setup or just go for he bi-poles for surrounds and get mono's for front height. So I know I'm going to get one pair of bi/di
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I have the selectable also, and I have always stayed with di-poles. My speaker manufacture suggest that if I were to use four of them, that I should use di-poles.

Make sure to give that link a read, it has some great information.
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I have the selectable also, and I have always stayed with di-poles. My speaker manufacture suggest that if I were to use four of them, that I should use di-poles.

Make sure to give that link a read, it has some great information.
I know I just did. Thanks again to Big D for all the work he put into that.

Good suggestion Hamp!
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Sub Klipsch RT 10D, RW 12D
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #11
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So I saw a few good deals on the AC4L website. For those starting out and looking for ideas, here are a couple.

Maybe five of these? $500 plus shipping
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...A-White/1.html

Or one center $150
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...r-Black/1.html

two of these $180 (stereophile recomended)
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...s-Black/1.html

two of these $130 plus shipping
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...A-Black/1.html
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SpeakersDali Ikon 1 front R & L, AV123 ELT Rocket center x2, Klipsch Synergy Quintets
Sub Klipsch RT 10D, RW 12D
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Speakers: AV123 Rocket RS 760, Preamp: Marantz SR4023, Amp: Yamaha MX 800, Turntable: Project Debut III, Player: Elite DV-47Ai, Digital files: Vista machine using iTunes
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:37 PM   #12
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Just another entry level setup that might be a lot of fun:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882117403 two floorstanding sets (4 speakers) $260

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA0AJ11M0952 Center speaker $200

http://www.lavasubs.com/12_inch/powe...subwoofer.html 2 of these subs for a total $340

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882121082
HK receiver for $180
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Sub Klipsch RT 10D, RW 12D
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Speakers: AV123 Rocket RS 760, Preamp: Marantz SR4023, Amp: Yamaha MX 800, Turntable: Project Debut III, Player: Elite DV-47Ai, Digital files: Vista machine using iTunes
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Hi guys, I hope this is the right thread to post my query.

I use my room in the house as a movie-watching room. I currently have a 50" plasma screen and bookshelf speakers (Mordaunt-Short Avant 902i) connected to an analog stereo amp (Norge - Indian make). I want to expand to a surround setup. My constraints are these:

1. Front L&R cannot be more than 4-5 feet apart and need to be bookshelves since they are placed on the sides of the TV atop a chest of drawers. I am hoping to keep my current speakers as fronts in a surround setup. They are less than a foot away from the wall at the back, and that cannot be remedied. I am satisfied with how they sound now, so take that as a benchmark for my audio sensitivities The fronts are a little less than 8 ft from the couch.

2. The proposed surrounds are going to be the trickiest bit. I have a weird arrangement in the sitting position with a small alcove (little more than 1 foot) behind the couch, the wall of which has a large sliding window (glass). The side walls beside the couch are max 6.5 ft across. I am putting a picture of the sitting position so you have an idea of how things are (messy room, yes )

My question is, what sort of surround placement should I go for - side or rear? Also would directional speakers be a bit too much for the distance between the speakers and the listening position? Would having bipoles / dipoles be better than mono-directional speakers? I would prefer something that can be wall-mounted (side/rear)? Please advise me

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speake...eatre/M-1.html

Wall mounting kit included. Fairly decent on the budget. Exceptional output for smaller sized speakers. Positioning can be quite tricky for positioning if placed on the wall behind, but amazing if placed on side walls aimed straight at seating area.

In Canada they retail for $250 per speaker, not sure what they are priced at in the U.S. or overseas. But, quite a "bang for your buck" little monster. I've been using them for 6 years and they are impressive!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speake...eatre/M-1.html
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In Canada they retail for $250 per speaker, not sure what they are priced at in the U.S. or overseas. But, quite a "bang for your buck" little monster. I've been using them for 6 years and they are impressive!
Thanks for the input. They're more expensive than I hoped for. Assuming a figure of 500 Canadian dollars a pair, they'd come to about twice what I paid for my bookshelves :gulp: And that's not including the bundled import duty I'd have to pay if I bought them in India.

Also, if multiple people are seated on the couch, would bipoles be better than normal speakers?

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Hi Ravenus,

Did you have a budget in mind? Depending on that there are lots of different ways you can go. Di and Bi bole surrounds usually have the mounts on the back so that can be a great way to go. I have found that Klipsch has the quintet series or the RSX series speakers that you can find on Ebay pretty cheap. For example:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Home-Speaker...&Brand=Klipsch

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-RSX-...item1c3a07589d

You mentioned India, so I don't know a thing about your international options if that is the case.
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This seems like a pretty good deal on some decent speakers.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...rk-Oak/1.html# Pair $200

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...specifications x3 = $450

Or if you cant do three front floor standing speakers

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ark-Oak/1.html $150

Total price $650
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