Can 3D picture be zoomed to rid of black bars?

[TM2-Megatron]

Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM

I can see this thread going places...

Oh yeah, lol.

Honestly, I never got this "fill the whole screen!" thing. It sounds like the same asinine hackery that resulted in all those fullscreen movies on VHS before the DVD era got going. Although, I suppose when most living room TVs were 27" or 29", filling the whole (tiny) screen was a bit more of an issue.

Now you can buy incredibly large TVs that allow the exhibition of content filmed even at very wide aspect ratios while still giving you a very large picture area. I have no problem with letterboxing, or pillarboxing in the case of pre-cinemascope or television content. Yeah, you're paying partially for the size of your TV; but mostly you're paying for the ability to watch content in high-quality. Taking up the entire screen isn't the sole measure of quality, if it's any kind of measure at all.

Although their thought processes are baffling, for the sake of those few people who share BigJayJay's opinions, I hope they find a way to enable the zoom function on future generations of 3DTVs. Just don't make me use it, lol.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by BigJayJay

You simply don't get it do you? Even if I purchased a bigger TV I'll still have the same problem. You can't tell the painter how to do his paintings, but when you are buying his work then you do have some say. You need to wake up and understand that you are the customer here. You are the reason they make what they make.

Nothing odd about wanting to view your entire screen. IMO, you have to be pretty dumb to buy a TV ___ Size, but then wanting to watch the movie in a aspect that cuts about 6" off your TV. That's just stupid. But there's a lot of stupid people in this world so your post doesn't surprise me.

With a bigger TV the image might be big enough that your peripheral black bars (up/down for Scope movies or left/right for Academy movies, on a HDTV) might not bother you. If you buy a Projector with zoom like one of these and project on a Scope shaped screen with curtain or mask running on the sides for different formats you wont have the perception problem of seeing the big screen "cut" and you'd enjoy the movies like you do in a theater. Even if you have a 16:9 screen instead of a Scope screen, with the zoom lens projector you could zoom Transformers and fill your 16:9 screen (but you'd lose the edges just like with a TV zoom)

This is how Films to TVs works and how it's worked since movies have 3 basic shapes and fixed TVs have only one, either you reformat the original image of the films made in the 2 shapes that don't fit the TV, not seeing then those movie like they were originally, or you leave black space around them so you see them like they should, is either that, or wait till they make them TVs of a spandex light emitting substance.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

Oh yeah, lol.

Honestly, I never got this "fill the whole screen!" thing. It sounds like the same asinine hackery that resulted in all those fullscreen movies on VHS before the DVD era got going. Although, I suppose when most living room TVs were 27" or 29", filling the whole (tiny) screen was a bit more of an issue.

Now you can buy incredibly large TVs that allow the exhibition of content filmed even at very wide aspect ratios while still giving you a very large picture area. I have no problem with letterboxing, or pillarboxing in the case of pre-cinemascope or television content. Yeah, you're paying partially for the size of your TV; but mostly you're paying for the ability to watch content in high-quality. Taking up the entire screen isn't the sole measure of quality, if it's any kind of measure at all.

Although their thought processes are baffling, for the sake of those few people who share BigJayJay's opinions, I hope they find a way to enable the zoom function on future generations of 3DTVs. Just don't make me use it, lol.

Even if BigJayJay's tv doesn't allow for it, he should be able to find a blu-ray player that does. I have never tried using the zoom function on my tv, however my Oppo BDP-93 has a zoom function which I tested the other day, and the feature works while watching 3d content. So the option is there for the people who would prefer it, they just need to do their research before buying gear to make sure the equipment they buy has the feature.

[sookymonster]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Even if BigJayJay's tv doesn't allow for it, he should be able to find a blu-ray player that does. I have never tried using the zoom function on my tv, however my Oppo BDP-93 has a zoom function which I tested the other day, and the feature works while watching 3d content. So the option is there for the people who would prefer it, they just need to do their research before buying gear to make sure the equipment they buy has the feature.

Best tip of the day.

[bluskies]

I think the best thing for the OP is to watch HBO where they fill the screen by cutting off picture info. Forget about Blu-ray where they preserve the correct ratios. Another possibility is wait until nighttime, turn out all your lights so the room is completely dark, and then the black on the top and bottom won't be visible, just picture.

[Steel Panther]

So, OP says "I paid for X size TV, I want it fully used, not get "cheated" out of size

But you paid X for your Transformers Blu Ray and when you zoom in, you're "cheating" yourself out of parts of the movie that would be now chopped off. My mom was the same way, then I proved to her how much you lose when you zoom.

Put it on a HD Channel (say NBC, that annoying logo is always there) and zoom in as you would a movie and watch how much picture disappears, specifically the logo. That is in essence what you're doing to your movies. You can't use the excuse "but the screen is already full on NBC"... because your movie is already (without zoom) the size it's supposed to be.

Do I notice the black bars when watching TV and the OAR switches between commercials? Yes. Does it bug me? No. Do I notice black bars watching a Blu Ray? For about 5 minutes. By the end of opening credits, they're non existent to me.

Please tell me OP you don't watch your TV in "Vivid" mode too

[-shadow-]

Really people complain about it whenever their entire TV set isn't used to maintain the correct ratio, but do those same people also do this in theatures? I watched The Artist on a 2.35:1 screen but the movie was shown on that screen at 1.33:1. So should I feel cheated that more then half of the projected screen didn't use the entire size of it? Same goes for The Wizard of Oz, also shown in a 1.33:1 ratio on a 2.35:1 screen, I don't get it...

[dmdragon]

GAH.... I stopped buying DVD's because of Full screen movies. I can't believe you are complaining about the bars.

[bumpa123]

Originally Posted by BigJayJay

I'm trying to get rid of the black bars on Transformers 3D and the top & bottom black bars is annoying to me. The zoom-out feature on the remote doesn't seem to work in 3D mode but works in 2D mode. However, on Journey 2 there are no black bars at all.

Is this something that can be rectified, or is this just the way the 3D format works where you are unable to zoom-in and out?

I Don't know if you are Using a Blu-Ray player to watch 3d movies but if your are watching 3d movies in your PC then i suggest you to download Gom player which has feature to stretch the video top to bottom letting vdeo to cover entire screen, all you have to do is hit ctrl key along with Num pad 8 and you can strech it up to your liking till it cover the screen.trust me i have seacrched all the forum and everything but there was no proper way,this is by far the easiest and quickest way to enjoy 3d movies with out black bars and it dosen't creat ghosthing of video because it streches up and down not side to side.hope you be satisfied with my suggetion, Have a nice day...

[tigermoth]

Both my projector and TV have zoom features, never tried it on the TV but the projector zooms in wit 3D fine. I never use the zoom though..

[levcore]

BigJay was probably a big fan of the VHS pan and scan days

This thread is ridiculous. It boils down to whining about aspect ratios. Probably best for BigJay to stop watching movies.

[Big3dfan]

This forum was getting boring offlate....this thread brings in fresh air

[cto15]

I don't even notice the black bars

[MovieFanatic2010]

My Epson 3020 has an "overscan" feature which enlarges the picture quite a bit so the black are pretty small when it is set to 8% overscan.

[Big3dfan]

Originally Posted by MovieFanatic2010

My Epson 3020 has an "overscan" feature which enlarges the picture quite a bit so the black are pretty small when it is set to 8% overscan.

Yea but that crops the picture on the sides. There is no free lunch here. The best way to enjoy scope movies is to use a CIH setup or go for really big screen that fills your field of vision. I could not stand these bars (although I dont think anyone is cheating me!) even on my 120" screen until I upgraded to 150" and now I am finally enjoying the artistic choice directors make with this format!