Blu-rays outperformed by their DVD counterparts

[TriuneImpurityRites]

Originally Posted by Dickieduvet

Direct comparisons of your chosen titles......

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...my_of_darkness

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...gleich=i_robot

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ID=563#auswahl

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ID=561#auswahl

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...gleich=robocop

Very similar in some instances although the DVD is always inferior, With AOD and I Robot the difference is massive though. The compression on all the DVD screens are terrible. I just can't watch DVD anymore.

Wow, I've never seen someone get SO ruined in a single post.

[TriuneImpurityRites]

Originally Posted by Bluprint

Im willing to bet racks (Money or Blurays) that most people would fail a DVD vs. BD eye test with atleast 4 out of 5 of the titles I mentioned in person judging which is the BD or Upscaled/Upconverted DVD. All Blurays are NOT created equal

a false premise since most people watch their 46" vizio from 12-15 feet away and don't have 20/8 vision.

[TriuneImpurityRites]

Originally Posted by Bluprint

AOD does look alot sharper on BD judging by the comparisons but wide shots are the only major hints on i, robot that show huge difference. The others I mentioned like you said were very similar if not almost dead on with their DVD counterparts. IMO if the BD is anywhere close to the DVDs PQ its not worth buying. I would rather have the DVD in that case.

check frame 8 in I robot.

check frame 10 in Empire strikes back, in which version can you tell if Lando's eyes are open or not ?

epic fail.

[brian9229]

This topic is just plain absurd. I mean, is this really a valid argument? Just seems really off that anyone would claim such things as certain dvds looking better than the bluray version. Even with a crappy transfer,i.e,(crush,banding,etc.) i cant see how its possible. Im also puzzled at how an upconverted dvd looks the same as a bluray.

[surfinhank]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Now we have blu ray, and they flood the market with upconversions disguised as actual 1080P content. The promise of blu ray was lossless audio and more storage space for additional material, and the give us bare bones releases or multiple releases/vesrsions, where you have to buy several to obtain a complete addition. Then, before that gets going good, they throw 3D at us to keep our wallets empty.. and still they create streaming, which eventually will eleminate the physical media we've spent thousands collecting.

It's all bullshit.

Is this a fair statement? Is the market really flooded with upconversions? There's only been a handful of titles listed in this thread so far and only a few are actually upconversions. If there's tons more I'd like to know what they are.

[formula72]

I for one could tell the difference, and I watch a lot of DVDs on my OPPO-93.

Now, with that said, I can tell the difference when I'm right on top of the screen (2-3 ft). Having someone sitting 6-12ft back, would be a lot different. Compression artifacts (butterfly effect) is a lot harder to observe the further you are from the screen.

[tigertron]

Originally Posted by TriuneImpurityRites

Wow, I've never seen someone get SO ruined in a single post.

Yeah, I mean there is NO way ROTS up scaled looks as good as the Blu-ray.

Take this for example:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ess=#vergleich

[bigdaddyhorse]

Original Hills Have Eyes. I saw screen compares that were identical right down to the print damage, and every review agrees it sucks and is no better than the dvd.

[gates70]

Some of these comparisons are hilarious...you guys watching these on a 32" TV or something ?

[Fanboyz]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

A buddy of mine and I discussed this afew years back. With progressive scan DVD players, and the upconversion of the material, we were just beginning to enjoy dvd's looking their best; films like Red Dragon for example.

Now we have blu ray, and they flood the market with upconversions disguised as actual 1080P content. The promise of blu ray was lossless audio and more storage space for additional material, and the give us bare bones releases or multiple releases/vesrsions, where you have to buy several to obtain a complete addition. Then, before that gets going good, they throw 3D at us to keep our wallets empty.. and still they create streaming, which eventually will eleminate the physical media we've spent thousands collecting.

It's all bullshit.

Name some unconverted titles...

[SwaggerJagger]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

This one for sure.

Halloween for the same reasons, although I hear the blu is much sharper, I can't get over wrong colors. That also sent me to swapadvd for the dvd of:

Crow: City of Angels - Never bothered with the blu after horrid reviews. Add in no extra features and I knew dvd was probably better for this one.

The only bd's I have skipped for crap reviews seem to come from Echo Bridge. Sure there's an exception here and there (above even), but the Dracula series are all cropped on blu as well.

These may not look better on dvd, but they look better to me as a film fan who wants to see what was intended. Wrong colors and or ratios are unforgivable on blu.

For the Crow 2: City of Angels, try the double feature, it has the director's cut and a pretty good picture, but I sold mine since I hated the film.,