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Old 11-28-2006, 01:39 PM   #21
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I have a question - is stored 1080p30 video content in the Blu-ray spec?
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:54 PM   #22
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I have a question - is stored 1080p30 video content in the Blu-ray spec?
No, and this is the only bad thing with the BD spec. But you can store it @ 1080 @ 60i.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:55 PM   #23
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No, and this is the only bad thing with the BD spec. But you can store it @ 1080 @ 60i.
But PS3 games are 1080/60p, this is also considered blu-ray. So BD spec is able to do 1080/60p, so why cant it do 1080/30p?

Ridge Race is 1080/60p.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:56 PM   #24
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Sony 40-52 XBR 2 or 3 LCD's will take a 1080p24 signal with out converting as will the pioneer elite tv's (can't rember the model number) with out converting. However you are correct in saying that most 1080p tvs are at 60hrz or 60fps. As time progresses you will see more 1080p24 tv's come out, but for right now they have a hefty pricetag for thier size.
Are these 3LCD tv's your talking about, 1080/24p only or can they do 1080/60p as well?
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:40 PM   #25
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But PS3 games are 1080/60p, this is also considered blu-ray. So BD spec is able to do 1080/60p, so why cant it do 1080/30p?

Ridge Race is 1080/60p.
No, that is gaming spec. You don't have that with the Samsung. 1080p60 is just a video spec.

1080i60. Think about it. 60 fields, two alternate interlaced fields combined to make one progressive frame.


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Old 11-29-2006, 05:40 PM   #26
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Are these 3LCD tv's your talking about, 1080/24p only or can they do 1080/60p as well?
Both they will handle 1080p24 and 1080p60.
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Old 12-02-2006, 07:48 AM   #27
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Sony 40-52 XBR 2 or 3 LCD's will take a 1080p24 signal with out converting as will the pioneer elite tv's (can't rember the model number) with out converting. However you are correct in saying that most 1080p tvs are at 60hrz or 60fps. As time progresses you will see more 1080p24 tv's come out, but for right now they have a hefty pricetag for thier size.
Thanks for the answer. However, I have been looking through the 52" XBR3 manual and see no mention of 24p support. On Sony's site, it lists the tv as having 1080p/60. Is there an owner out there that can confirm the 1080p24 on the XBR3?
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Old 12-05-2006, 01:27 AM   #28
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In simple terms, a 24p output into a monitor or projector that can display it, gives smoother motion for 99.99% of movies.
Does this include my Optoma H-78 (aka H-79) 720p pj?
It accepts the 1080p 60 and 24p signals from the Sony Player...were it would only accept 1080i from the Philips player via hdmi.

I am still waiting on the H-81 1080p version to get a few bugs worked out before jumping in....and until then I will use the H-78.

Its very odd that most 1080 displays will not accept the 24p signal ...but my 720p pj does
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:35 PM   #29
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One problem of the PS3 BD playback bothers me is the *blink* feel of actions. The fast moving objects looks like *jumping* on screen. My setting on PS3 was 24p, I will change it to 60p to see if things got better.

My TV does support both 24p and 60p.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:16 PM   #30
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I believe the ps3 does support 1080p @ 24 fps. Mine offers off, automatic or on as far as settings go. I'd assume, Off would mean it would send out the signal at 60fps then.

All 7th gen & newer Pioneers support 1080p/24hz/fps input. Some can also "extract" this from DVD.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:24 PM   #31
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hi,well i have a question,i have a sony xbr2 lcd tv and a sony bdp-s1 blu-ray player and when i have it set on 1080i the picture looks much clearer,more detail,just a better picture than when set on 1080p and if i set it in auto,it plays at 1080i/60 and if i set it on direct it says unsupported signal,check your device output,so its like i can't get 1080p/24 but yet both the blu ray player and the tv both support 1080p/24 and everything is connected with hdmi,confused?

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Old 02-27-2008, 12:08 AM   #32
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ps3 can put out 1080/24
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One problem of the PS3 BD playback bothers me is the *blink* feel of actions. The fast moving objects looks like *jumping* on screen. My setting on PS3 was 24p, I will change it to 60p to see if things got better.

My TV does support both 24p and 60p.
If this experience you're talking about happens when watching movies, that's because the 24fps judder effect during slow panning. The camera captures 24 frames in one second. Our eyes can observe a faster rate than that, which is at the Imax rate of 60fps. It'll always be there and can't be eliminated.


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Old 02-27-2008, 06:40 PM   #34
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If this experience you're talking about happens when watching movies, that's because the 24fps judder effect during slow panning. The camera captures 24 frames in one second. Our eyes can observe a faster rate than that, which is at the Imax rate of 60fps. It'll always be there and can't be eliminated.
I hate to be nitpicky, but "judder" usually refers to the unevenness of the motion when 24 fps frames are shown using 2:3 pulldown. Since some frames are shown 50% longer than other frames, motion doesn't look even.

Offhand I don't know if there is a term for the jerkiness seen with 24 fps motion due to it being at a frame rate we can perceive.
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Seems everytime I think I have HD figured out I'm defeated by a lack of information. I bought a Sony Bravia KDL-46XBR2 with "full HD 1080p" capability, or so I was led to believe (not cheap, BTW). After a year I was compelled to buy a Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player to experience the TV's full capability. The S350 has a little blue light that illuminates when a full 1080/24p signal is being sent. Guess what. The KDL-46XBR2 can't receive in 24p, so there's some kind of 3-2 interface going on (I guess). I only discovered this 24p vs 60p issue when the blue light never came on, when I forced it to transmit in 1080/24p the TV couldn't support the signal at all. Bottom line: I'm not really sure if I'm seeing a 1080p picture or not?! I would really like to find out if the 1080/24p conversion to 60p is a 1080i signal or 1080p signal and if I am receiving an inferior picture resolution by not having a 24p capable TV? I'm not particularly "blown away" by the Blu-rays picture resolution (it is good, though). Does anybody know what is going on? - Frustrated.
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Seems everytime I think I have HD figured out I'm defeated by a lack of information. I bought a Sony Bravia KDL-46XBR2 with "full HD 1080p" capability, or so I was led to believe (not cheap, BTW). After a year I was compelled to buy a Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player to experience the TV's full capability. The S350 has a little blue light that illuminates when a full 1080/24p signal is being sent. Guess what. The KDL-46XBR2 can't receive in 24p, so there's some kind of 3-2 interface going on (I guess). I only discovered this 24p vs 60p issue when the blue light never came on, when I forced it to transmit in 1080/24p the TV couldn't support the signal at all. Bottom line: I'm not really sure if I'm seeing a 1080p picture or not?! I would really like to find out if the 1080/24p conversion to 60p is a 1080i signal or 1080p signal and if I am receiving an inferior picture resolution by not having a 24p capable TV? I'm not particularly "blown away" by the Blu-rays picture resolution (it is good, though). Does anybody know what is going on? - Frustrated.
It doesn't matter if your TV accepts 24p or not if it its a 60Hz display (and not capable of 48, 72 Hz etc). The picture would still be displayed @ 60p with a 3:2 pattern. 24p versus 60p will not result in a better looking picture per se.

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Old 12-30-2008, 07:12 PM   #37
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Bottom line: I'm not really sure if I'm seeing a 1080p picture or not?! I would really like to find out if the 1080/24p conversion to 60p is a 1080i signal or 1080p signal and if I am receiving an inferior picture resolution by not having a 24p capable TV?
Here's a 1080p24 signal
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Here's a 1080p60 signal when 3:2 is performed correctly

1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6

1080i60 is a totally different matter and uses a different process.

Try reading this article and you'll understand everything a little better:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...07-part-1.html
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If I understand this correctly, then if a TV can do 120hz then it can do 1080p24?
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If I understand this correctly, then if a TV can do 120hz then it can do 1080p24?
A 120 Hz TV still has a refresh rate 5 times faster than 24p. It will not be able to display a 24p movie unless it effectively slows down its native refresh rate which is done by a process called pull down. Thus for that TV to display 24p, it will have to insert or interpolate several frames between one 24p frame and the next. They call that the 5:5 pull down. It is said to be smoother than the 3:2 pull down required for 60 Hz TVs as just explained by dolbyblue.

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Thanks for the answer. However, I have been looking through the 52" XBR3 manual and see no mention of 24p support. On Sony's site, it lists the tv as having 1080p/60. Is there an owner out there that can confirm the 1080p24 on the XBR3?
I have the Sony 46 XBR3 that I bought in October of 2006 and I can confirm it DOES NOT support 1080p 24fps only 60fps. When I try setting the PS3 to automatic it doesn't do anything, but when I specifically set it to accept 24fps my tv goes blank for about 20 seconds and my tv says does not support that signal. My pioneer 111fd that I just purchased does not do this when I set the PS3 to accept 24fps. The XBR 3 was one of the first 1080p tvs to come to the market before 24fps was a standard in most 1080p tvs.
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