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Old 12-08-2007, 01:29 PM   #1
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This is My TV: Toshiba 46H83 46" HDTV Projection TV

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46-inch widescreen HD-compatible projection television with DVI-HDTV input; 43.375 x 40.5 x 21.875 inches (W x H x D)
CrystalScan HDSC coverts all 480i and 480p signals (as from progressive-scan DVD players and DTV set-top boxes) to high-definition 1080i
3D Y/C digital comb filter with Vertical Contour Correction accurately processes RF (broadcast, VCR) and composite-video (DVD, VCR, camcorder) signals
HD Window dual-tuner POP with PIP sound
PowerFocus HD II CRTs offer 10 percent more brightness and 25 percent better sharpness than standard CRTs
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In the box: TV, remote control, remote batteries, user's manual, QuickConnect guide, warranty information
Color: Grey
Screen size: 46 inches
TV type: Projection with TheaterFine HD super-fine-pitch screen
HDTV capable: Yes
Aspect ratio: 16:9 (with auto aspect-ratio detect)
Speaker wattage per channel: 20
Number of speakers: 2
Includes radio: No
Comb filter: 3D Y/C (4 MB, 10 Bit) Digital Comb Filter with Vertical Contour Correction
Horizontal resolution: Information not available
Invar shadow mask: No
Scan velocity modulation: DFine High-Speed VSM
Line doubling: No
3:2 pulldown: Yes (Cinema Mode)
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Black-level expansion: Yes (HD Dynamic Contrast)
Auto channel setup: Yes
Channel labeling: Yes
Input labeling: Yes
Direct video input selection: Yes
Closed captioning: Yes (on mute)
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Mute: Yes (2 levels)
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Picture modes: Movie, Sports, Normal, TheaterWide modes, A/V settings by input type
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Multilingual menu: Yes (English, Spanish, French)
Parental control: Yes (V-Chip, video lock, front-panel lockout, GameTimer)
Picture-in-picture (PIP): Yes (HD Window Dual Tuner POP, PIP sound)
Remote control: Yes (illuminated universal)
SAP: Yes
Sleep timer: Yes (1-button, and on timer)
Power return: Yes (reverts to last powered state after power failure)
Audio tone controls: Yes (including sub-bass system)
Surround sound: Yes (SRS WOW simulated surround)
VGA/SVGA input: No
Audio outputs: 2 stereo analog (left/right) RCA: 1 fixed level, 1 variable level
Audio inputs: 1 center-channel audio input (monaural)
Video outputs: 1 (composite-video)
Video inputs: 10 total
Headphone jack: No
DVI-HDTV: 1
Component video: 2 (HD)
Composite video: 3
S-video: 3
RF: 1
Monitor: No (includes 181-channel NTSC tuner)
Color temperature control: Yes (Warm/Medium/Cool)
Front AV jacks: Yes
Side AV jacks: No
Sound leveler system: Yes (StableSound)
Component linking: No
Power supply: AC 120V, 60 Hz

I am buying a PS3 mainly for the Blu Ray option, the fact that 20th Century Fox is only making Blu Ray dvds, and to play from time to time my old PS2 titles.

My other questions are:

Will I see blu ray dvd movies in 1080i and not 480p resoltion?

Is it because of the new firmware that came out that I'm able to watch movies in 1080i? and is it easy to install the firmware updates?

Do I need to buy any seperate cables, and if, which ones? After reading this I am confused: Also, to suit your TV's specification, you can now select the video output format (automatic, RGB, or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr) for Blu-ray disc playback using an HDMI cable.

Does my TV have or need HDMI?

Will my ps3 games play in 480p or 1080i format?

Do I need a new remote control or does it come with a basic one?

Should I plunge in and buy the PS3 today?, Ive found a decent deal as well.

Thank you all, any simple answers to these questions would be appreciated.

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Old 12-08-2007, 01:31 PM   #2
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Yes. If you have a Blu-ray standalone player or PS3.
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:33 PM   #3
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Yep...only requirement to play blu-rays is a standalone blu-ray player or ps3. Any TV can be used...but the higher the resolution the better of course. A 1080i will look pretty damn good. My projector is 720p and it still looks amazing compared to DVD.

(one of these days...1080p projector for me)
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:36 PM   #4
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I watch blu-rays with my ps3 on a 1080i sony and the pq is fabulous
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:38 PM   #5
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Thanx guys, I appreciate the help, I edited my original post and added a few more questions if you care to check them out, thanks again.

The thing is that my TV does not support 720p, doesnt that mean dvd movies will be shown in 480p? Just curious and want to make sure.
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:44 PM   #6
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Thanx guys, I appreciate the help, I edited my original post and added a few more questions if you care to check them out, thanks again.

The thing is that my TV does not support 720p, doesnt that mean dvd movies will be shown in 480p? Just curious and want to make sure.
A Blu-ray standalone or PS3 upconverts regular DVDs quite nicely, too.

The biggest cable requirement is the use of HDMI cables wherever possible. They provide the best improvement in image.

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(3) Sony UBP-X800 4K Player
(3) Samsung UBD-K8500 Player

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:05 PM   #7
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the ps3 is an AWESOME piece of machinery. I would kill a man for trying to take mine haha seriously I talked a guy into buying one yesterday at the local best buy when he was inquiring about the best blu-ray player out there.

Games will play in either 1080i or 720p depending on your settings. All my games look gorgeous on my 36" 1080i.

blu rays will be seein in 1080i or 720 p again depending on your settings. again all my blu-rays look AMAZING.

the new firmware has nothing to do witnn the 1080i capability, but def upgrade no matter what.

doesnt look like your tv has a hdmi port but neither does mine. you can use a dvi-hdmi cable or a component cable. I use a dvi-hdmi cable and it looks fabulous.. I have used component too and it looks equally great to be honest.

the only issue you will have with a component cable is that it will NOT upconvert your standard dvd's to 1080i or p if its copyright protected (which all of them practically are) I use my dvi to hdmi and even the standard dvds look MUCH better upconverted. But if your just worried about your blu ray watching component cables will work just fine. SOme people even think you get more vibrant and warmer colors from component.

you can use the controller that the ps3 comes with to control blu-ray playability but I would purchase the blue tooth ps3 remote at best buy or any electronics store. I recommend it. I bought mine for like $25 and it makes life easier.

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:08 PM   #8
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oh yeah.. so DEFINITELY go and buy that ps3 =] with all the things you can do and will be able to do with it in the future it is seriously worth any amount. especially the $300 to 400 dollar price range you can get a new one at now.. but also know that the 40gb version does not have compatibilty with ps2 games..
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:16 PM   #9
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Thanx guys, I appreciate the help, I edited my original post and added a few more questions if you care to check them out, thanks again.

The thing is that my TV does not support 720p, doesnt that mean dvd movies will be shown in 480p? Just curious and want to make sure.
DVDs are upconverted to 1080i if you have that resolution set and are using HDMI (you will need an HDMI to DVI cable). I believe you are mistaken about 720p, however. I have a 65H83 (same year) and it supports 720p (converts to 1080i), and looks great. Have you actually tried a 720p source?

The issue with PS3 and TVs that don't support 720p is that 720p games are only displayed at 480p. They can't be upconverted to 1080i.

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:28 PM   #10
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Thanks again guys, I willd definately have to buy the dvi-hdmi cable and a remote. Now another thing that baffles my mind, I had found a PS3 for 399$ but it's the stupid 40gb version, I dont understand why the 40gb does not play ps2 games, i dont get these things, they boggle the mind.

So what do I need than, a 6ogb version or an 80gb version, and how do I know which ps3 games play on 1080i? If my TV says it only supports 480p/i and 1080i I cant excpect it to support 720p?

Now if only I could buy that Sci-Fi Mass Effect game for PS3, I 'm kidding, just dreaming.

Looking VERY forward to watching Alexander Revisited, Troy Director's cut, 300, Kingdom of Heaven, King Arthur, Sunshine and Pathfinder on Blu Ray.

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:32 PM   #11
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All games will play on it. All movies will play on it

The 60GB is out of print, whether you buy the 80 or the 40 depends on how much HD space you think you'll need, and whether you think PS2 backwards compatibility is essential.

If the answer to #2 is no, then get the 40, you can always add external storage or a card reader later
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Thanks again guys, I willd definately have to buy the dvi-hdmi cable and a remote. Now another thing that baffles my mind, I had found a PS3 for 399$ but it's the stupid 40gb version, I dont understand why the 40gb does not play ps2 games, i dont get these things, they boggle the mind.

So what do I need than, a 6ogb version or an 80gb version, and how do I know which ps3 games play on 1080i? If my TV says it only supports 480p/i and 1080i I cant excpect it to support 720p?
If you want to play PS2 games on the PS3, then you'll need an 80gig, or...if you can find a 60gig for a discounted price somewhere, I'd get that.

All PS3s (regardless of size) will play PSONE games.

On the back cover of PS3 game cases you will find the resolution that it supports. Most are 720p, some 1080i/p.

I would imagine that your TV would support 720p if it supports 1080i...but I may be incorrect since I get confused sometimes on resolutions
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just buy the 40 and keep your ps2 plugged in along side your new ps3 =] Honestly i was excited that the ps3 i have (60gb) would play my ps2 games as well but once you play a ps3 game you kinda go 'mehhh' when it comes to ps2.

I still play a few occasionally but never on my ps3 since the other one is right beside it =] Guitar hero is the only thing I still play on a somewhat regular basis and after Christmas I'l have guitar hero 3 for the ps3 so there ya go =]
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:50 PM   #14
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Nah, I have to go with 80gb, I want those PS2 games to show up in 1080i if possible. I hope the Blu Ray movies better show up in 1080i, any other acessory I will be needing so I wont have to return to the store?

Im buying the 80gb ps3 version, remote control, vci-hdmi cable, anything else that you guys think will be necessary?

Any good SCI-FI or Horror games out yet for PS3? Too bad no mass effect, that's a stinger. Cant wait for the Aliens game, but that's far out into 2009.

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if your into sci fi shooters "resistance fall of man" is pretty sick. still my favorite and the online play is fun as hell, especially in sniper deatmatch mode =]
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and fyi you can probably still find a few 60 gb floating around. I saw one at target and a few at best buy last week, lastly if your not in such a big rush to hook up, you can find those dvi-hdmi cables for a lot cheaper online than you will at best buy, or go to walmart. I think I paid about $26 for mine there as opposed to the $50 and up that the cc and bb were asking for.
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Yeah, I remember it was the same with component cables in best buy stores with over inflated prices back than.
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I used these dvi-hdmi cables before I upgraded my cable box to a dvr model with hdmi.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...rt=TL952LL%2FA

No reason to pay more.

A little HDMI history lesson:
HDMI 1.0 - December 9, 2002, HDMI 1.1 - May 20, 2004, HDMI 1.2 - August 8, 2005, HDMI 1.2a - December 14, 2005, HDMI 1.3 -June 22, 2006, HDMI 1.3a - November 10, 2006, HDMI 1.3b - March 26, 2007, HDMI 1.3b1 - November 9, 2007, HDMI 1.3c - August 25, 2008, HDMI 1.4 - May 28, 2009, HDMI 1.4a - March 4, 2010, HDMI 1.4b - October 11, 2011, HDMI 2.0 - September 4, 2013, HDMI 2.0a - April 8, 2015
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Yeah definitely get the 80 GB PS3 since you want to play your old PS2 games. Yes you TV would support 720p since it supports 1080i: it goes like this 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p and in that order so if your tv supports 1080i it also supports 720p but 1080i is much better resolution so I would stick with that. Unfortunately you TV and mine too will NOT upconvert copy-righted regular DVDs with component or DVI but with only HDMI for HDCP regulations (they need to change that law). But you do get to watch fantastic Picture and audio quality on Blu-ray movies and PS3 games which are in Blu-ray too.

Best thing about PS3 is that you get firmware updates so Sony gives making the PS3 better and better over time like now PS3 will be Profile 1.1 and Profile 2.0 when the most expensive early BD players arent. So go with 80 GB PS3 since it is backward compatible with PS2 games and if you want full backward compatibility then 60 GB is your machine. Make sure you have it connected to the internet though to be able to get those updates.
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Ah great cable selection Bootman. Looked around the best buy/future shop store websites and can only find these at a similar price, not bad.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...74&catid=24673

Sorry ZeeMan84 what did you mean by:

"So go with 80 GB PS3 since it is backward compatible with PS2 games and if you want full backward compatibility then 60 GB is your machine. "

With the 60GB even my old dvds will be backward compatible?

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