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Old 12-31-2012, 11:33 PM   #1
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Why aren't more pc's coming out with BD drives? How come they don't make any br players with carousels? They did that a lot with dvd players.

What gives?
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Why aren't more pc's coming out with BD drives?
Number of reasons:
  • Apple retina and Intel ultra books, removing optical drives.
  • Blu-ray association DRM added to the complexity and cost to a computer or OS.
  • Digital streaming from Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu Plus, is adequate for people using laptops.
  • Size of the display that provides useful benefits, would Blu-ray playback on a 13/15/17 laptop screen be beneficial?
  • Why use Larger desktop computers with 1980 x 1080P screens (22" thru 27") as a substitute to your HDTV paired with a BD player?

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How come they don't make any br players with carousels? They did that a lot with dvd players.What gives?
Carousels are too expensive to make and service. Using Sony as a example they went the cheap route on their entire lineup of Blu-ray players, and abandoned that market.

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Old 01-01-2013, 09:30 PM   #4
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Number of reasons:
  • Apple retina and Intel ultra books, removing optical drives.
  • Blu-ray association DRM added to the complexity and cost to a computer or OS.
  • Digital streaming from Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu Plus, is adequate for people using laptops.
  • Size of the display that provides useful benefits, would Blu-ray playback on a 13/15/17 laptop screen be beneficial?
  • Why use Larger desktop computers with 1980 x 1080P screens (22" thru 27") as a substitute to your HDTV paired with a BD player?

Carousels are too expensive to make and service. Using Sony as a example they went the cheap route on their entire lineup of Blu-ray players, and abandoned that market.
Good post and great points, except for the last one. Some people don't have a HDTV, so watching BD on a PC is a good alternative.
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Good post and great points, except for the last one. Some people don't have a HDTV, so watching BD on a PC is a good alternative.
Last comment is based on the rapidly decreased pricing for inexpensive HDTV's combined with the reduced form factor of economy BD players. I seen some incredibly low pricing on what a consumer could put together over the holiday shopping period.

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Last comment is based on the rapidly decreased pricing for inexpensive HDTV's combined with the reduced form factor of economy BD players. I seen some incredibly low pricing on what a consumer could put together over the holiday shopping period.
While true, that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.
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Good post and great points, except for the last one. Some people don't have a HDTV, so watching BD on a PC is a good alternative.
Or some people have their PC's connected to a projector
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Why aren't more pc's coming out with BD drives? How come they don't make any br players with carousels? They did that a lot with dvd players.

What gives?
Every PC that I have built in the past three years had a BD player in it. my major BD player is a PC.
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While true, that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.
Yes you made the point that a PC desktop w/BD player is a alternative, but the original question was "Why aren't more pc's coming out with BD drives?"

So from a PC marketplace perspective where is the incentive to put a Blu-ray build as part of a PC build? Yes you still have some PC desktops sold as complete media solutions, but they aren't as common/popular anymore. Sure you can custom add this as a option, but what percentage of consumers do this anymore?

For a consumer, who is looking at the size of the desktop monitor, is it worth the bother with incorporating a internal BD optical drive? Its not like there are much in the way of BD based games as a further justification these days, along with various online streaming options.

IMHO the expansion of BD players doing more has also hurt the attractiveness of PC desktop using internal BD drives.

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Yes you made the point that a PC desktop w/BD player is a alternative, but the original question was "Why aren't more pc's coming out with BD drives?"

So from a PC marketplace perspective where is the incentive to put a Blu-ray build as part of a PC build? Yes you still have some PC desktops sold as complete media solutions, but they aren't as common/popular anymore. Sure you can custom add this as a option, but what percentage of consumers do this anymore?

For a consumer, who is looking at the size of the desktop monitor, is it worth the bother with incorporating a internal BD optical drive? Its not like there are much in the way of BD based games as a further justification these days, along with various online streaming options.

IMHO the expansion of BD players doing more has also hurt the attractiveness of PC desktop using internal BD drives.
I for one will always opt for something I can fix, modify, or upgrade myself

Avoided the trap of buying a new BD player every year or so by just using a PC - still using the same drive I bought in 2007!!!!
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I apologize for inappropriately cutting into this post, I'm a new member and for some unknown reason to me I'm unable to initiate a new post but yet I'm able to reply to exisiting posts???? ------------- anyway I need some help on this unrelated issue and would appreciate your expert technical opinion on this:

I have an older HD TV and receiver which both only have Component Video connections for HD which is 1080I for the TV.

I would love to replace my DVD with a Blue Ray player to at least enjoy 1080I HD picture quality when using blue ray disks and have found out that apparently all Blue Ray's manufactured after Jan. 2011 no longer include Component Video Connections and only have the HDMI for HD and or RCA (red, white & yellow) for a analog connection.

If I can find a older Blue Ray player made before 2011 would this work giving me a 1080I HD picture when using a blue ray disc ----------- and is this my only option until I get a new HD TV with HDMI?

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I apologize for inappropriately cutting into this post, I'm a new member and for some unknown reason to me I'm unable to initiate a new post but yet I'm able to reply to exisiting posts???? ------------- anyway I need some help on this unrelated issue and would appreciate your expert technical opinion on this:

I have an older HD TV and receiver which both only have Component Video connections for HD which is 1080I for the TV.

I would love to replace my DVD with a Blue Ray player to at least enjoy 1080I HD picture quality when using blue ray disks and have found out that apparently all Blue Ray's manufactured after Jan. 2011 no longer include Component Video Connections and only have the HDMI for HD and or RCA (red, white & yellow) for a analog connection.

If I can find a older Blue Ray player made before 2011 would this work giving me a 1080I HD picture when using a blue ray disc ----------- and is this my only option until I get a new HD TV with HDMI?

Thank you!
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I would think it does, but I'm not an expert in that area. I'm sure someone will come along to answer that question for you shortly with 100% certainty.

You'll need a few more posts before you can start your own thread. It's a spam-preventative measure we have in place.
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@Rabvet here is a partial list of blu ray players that include component out. If you give us a budget/ brand preference we can help sort you out with links for current sales. HTH

http://reviews.cnet.com/blu-ray-play...4468653-2.html
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