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Old 03-07-2014, 07:33 PM   #1181
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It doesn't look anything like vhs -- it looks like a worn print.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:38 PM   #1182
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It doesn't look anything like vhs -- it looks like a worn print.
The extended version looks like shit which is the same thing as VHS lol.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:39 PM   #1183
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I prefer to watch the Extended Cut for its 1980s Drive - In picture quality. Horror movies look better grainy.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:45 PM   #1184
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I prefer to watch the Extended Cut for its 1980s Drive - In picture quality. Horror movies look better grainy.
I understand this logic. However it's not simply grainy. The colors are way off, Detail is non existent and then we come to the scratches and print damage. It reminded of watching a worn and cheap VHS.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:59 PM   #1185
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I am THRILLED that the extended cut of Just Before Dawn was included along with the remastered uncut theatrical version. It gave me the opportunity to see a version of the film I'd never seen before, which is ALWAYS welcome. I don't worry about it looking worn out as long as the theatrical cut looks as best as it can. Code Red did a fantastic job with this release.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:37 PM   #1186
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I understand this logic. However it's not simply grainy. The colors are way off, Detail is non existent and then we come to the scratches and print damage. It reminded of watching a worn and cheap VHS.
It reminds me of their releases of RITUALS and NIGHTMARE. Worn out grindhouse prints. It's true that they are lacking in detail and I expect more from 1080p.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:23 AM   #1187
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Then you're being unrealistic.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:45 AM   #1188
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It reminds me of their releases of RITUALS and NIGHTMARE. Worn out grindhouse prints. It's true that they are lacking in detail and I expect more from 1080p.
When I read a comment like that, I almost understand Bill's *****ing and moaning.

You are being completely unrealistic.
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:35 AM   #1189
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I understand this logic. However it's not simply grainy. The colors are way off, Detail is non existent and then we come to the scratches and print damage. It reminded of watching a worn and cheap VHS.
It's a definite upgrade from the DVD. Detail is sharper, and night scenes are MUCH clearer. I remember my first impression when I saw the DVD, by the way. It didn't look like a VHS rip to me, but some scenes looked like there had been a smear of vaseline on the camera lens - like in the graveyard photoshoot scene. The same softness is present in the same scenes on the blu-ray, and I suspect it has more to do with the way the film was shot than wear to the print.

I don't expect lobudget vintage horror to look like it was shot yesterday, but I do expect the movies to look as good as the technology allows. And honestly, if you've seen the bootlegs available of Rituals and Silent Night, Bloody Night, it's obvious that Bill has made every effort in restoring the films for their DVD releases. The man may not be a people person (at all), but he definitely works towards showing his movies at their best. Now, if only he could embrace the blu-ray format before even that is outdated.
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:25 AM   #1190
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When I read a comment like that, I almost understand Bill's *****ing and moaning.

You are being completely unrealistic.

Its not unrealistic. There would be a noticeable improvement in the visual quality if that idiot didn't cram both versions on a single layer giving them half or even one-quarter the video bit-rate they deserved. Blu-ray has 8x the resolution of dvd, yet his is only 1.5x the file size.

He said he has three different hi-def masters for "Nightmares in a Damaged Brain". I can't wait to see what the quality will be like when he crams all 3 on a single layer bd25.
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:42 PM   #1191
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Its not unrealistic. There would be a noticeable improvement in the visual quality if that idiot didn't cram both versions on a single layer giving them half or even one-quarter the video bit-rate they deserved. Blu-ray has 8x the resolution of dvd, yet his is only 1.5x the file size.

He said he has three different hi-def masters for "Nightmares in a Damaged Brain". I can't wait to see what the quality will be like when he crams all 3 on a single layer bd25.
We totally agree that there are detriments to the transfers due to his use of low bit-rates. However, that was NOT the point being made. The point being made was about the low amount of details and print damages that came from CR using beat-up old theatrical prints. And the fact is, it *is* unrealistic for this to change for a very simple reason: For the majority of movies he releases that is all there is left.

That's why he took so long to release Nightmare, and that's why we still haven't seen a release of Mutilator. For Nightmare, he found the last theatrical prints in existence - something he has yet to do with The Mutilator.

I really hope he will turn up the bit-rate on later releases, but frankly, not Scream Factory! and not even Synapse can change the fact that for a lot of these movies good materials simply don't exists anymore. So, yes, we will still see transfers from low-detail, beaten-up theatrical prints. And, given the titles, it's unrealistic that it is going to change - no matter who releases them.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:31 PM   #1192
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It's a definite upgrade from the DVD. Detail is sharper, and night scenes are MUCH clearer. I remember my first impression when I saw the DVD, by the way. It didn't look like a VHS rip to me, but some scenes looked like there had been a smear of vaseline on the camera lens - like in the graveyard photoshoot scene. The same softness is present in the same scenes on the blu-ray, and I suspect it has more to do with the way the film was shot than wear to the print.

I don't expect lobudget vintage horror to look like it was shot yesterday, but I do expect the movies to look as good as the technology allows. And honestly, if you've seen the bootlegs available of Rituals and Silent Night, Bloody Night, it's obvious that Bill has made every effort in restoring the films for their DVD releases. The man may not be a people person (at all), but he definitely works towards showing his movies at their best. Now, if only he could embrace the blu-ray format before even that is outdated.
We are both talking about he extended version right? I thought the extended version was never on dvd before. I thought the regular version looked pretty good
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:34 PM   #1193
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When I read a comment like that, I almost understand Bill's *****ing and moaning.

You are being completely unrealistic.
The fact of the matter is that the extended version of just before dawn doesn't look like blu ray/1080P. At best it's looks like a bad dvd. Is it a nice bonus? Yes but it shouldn't come at the expense of the the PQ on the regular cut. Which it did when both cuts were put on a BD 25
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:24 PM   #1194
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^ every time I see that dude post I look up this youtube video.


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Old 03-09-2014, 01:11 AM   #1195
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And honestly, if you've seen the bootlegs available of Rituals and Silent Night, Bloody Night, it's obvious that Bill has made every effort in restoring the films for their DVD releases. The man may not be a people person (at all), but he definitely works towards showing his movies at their best. Now, if only he could embrace the blu-ray format before even that is outdated.
I completely agree, as I have those bootlegs. Both of those films look pretty damn good on their respective Code Red DVD releases. A pair of HD prints of either would be nice, but all things considered I feel pretty lucky that we have what we got.
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^ every time I see that dude post I look up this youtube video.


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Old 03-19-2014, 08:29 PM   #1198
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He said it's not Nightmare, Sweet Sixteen or Shakma

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He said it's not Nightmare, Sweet Sixteen or Shakma
Bill said Nightmare has run into a sync issue with the commentary, but Nightmare looks to be still on the way!

Sweet Sixteen also looks to be still in the works.

So does this mean we will be getting a total of 6 Blu's by mid-April?
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