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Old 11-16-2012, 04:17 AM   #181
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Anthony when you finally manage to meet a girl you might realize why i would want a roku that can be easily transferred to another tv so the game station is not the only streaming option. Weird how people can have different circumstances or benefits you can't see right. Enjoy your electronic superiority complex bub.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:37 AM   #182
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Lol the Roku is irrelevant when you have streaming content on your blu-ray player and tv. Good luck Roku..
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:23 AM   #183
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Yes, agreed. The arguments switch from technical ones such as the quality of streaming or bluray to lifestyle ones like family, kids etc.. Does not change the fact that streaming is a deeply flawed format. Why would someone who cares about quality suddenly think 'oh, so and so has kids, i will change my mind, I actually love streaming now'? One can only speak of their personal preference, so why would they give a crap about lesser formats regardless of someone having five kids or whatever.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:41 PM   #184
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Anthony when you finally manage to meet a girl you might realize why i would want a roku that can be easily transferred to another tv so the game station is not the only streaming option. Weird how people can have different circumstances or benefits you can't see right. Enjoy your electronic superiority complex bub.
lol man, so before you did not know anything about measurements and said something stupid;

then you did not know anything about internet connections (or Canada) and did the same again

http://techblog.netflix.com/2011/01/...-networks.html
now the info might be a bit outdated but even though Netflix did say they would post charts every month they never continued it because loudmouth fanboys thatdid not want to deal withy reality preferedc shooting the messenger than accepting the fact that the internet access in the US is pretty crappy and crappier then in Canada

so know why would you think that you know anything about my love life? and how does that have anything to do with the size of devices?

As for needing to move it from TV to TV, have you ever thought that if you did not over pay for the Roku just because there is no BD logo on the box, maybe you could afford more players and then you would not need to move it to different TVs

And why would this discussion have anything to do with you or me. I made a simple claim, the Roku CEO said a bunch of FUD now that the players (that just also happen to play BDs) from other manufacturers have become cheaper because they are his completion.
If Joe bought his 360 in 2005 and the HD-DVD add on in 2006 and vowed when HD-DVD went belly up that he will never watch a film on BD and has it in his living room to watch Netflix, he does not need an extra device in there to watch his Netflix films. If Joe has his laptop in his office and watches Netflix on that he does not need anything more there, if Joe just got a smart TV for his kitchen because the old one broke then he can watch his Netflix films there as well. So what if Joe is now thinking “hey the only TV I can’t watch my Netflix on is in the BR, maybe I will do something about that”. He is thinking “my TV is still good, so I don’t want to spend the money to get that, I won’t be playing xbox games in the BR, so that is overkill” and he goes to the store for a box where he can use with Netflix. Now if he goes starts shopping and as an HD-DVD fanboy he says I don’t want a player with a BD logo or if he does not look at them because he read “BD is doomed” then he might buy the Roku for the room. But what happens if he has an opened mind? He looks at all the machines that do Netflix and he looks at the Roku and it is unrecognizable, while some of the rest are well known brands he likes; he looks at the prices, the Roku is more expensive; he might think, hey I don’t want to watch BDs since I vowed never to watch one, but I do have some DVDs so that is an extra feature (and if he has a DVD player there already he can get rid of it). These are what he is most likely to consider important and not how much less then 1/12th of a cubic foot difference there is between the two players, he might say “looks smaller” but then again he will probably also think “I will put it on the dresser were it will collect dust for as long as it works so who cares”.
The issue is that Roku needs to convince Joe to buy their player to continue doing business, they already sold you that one player that you are moving from room to room.

PS I included the smaller charts from Netflix since the bigger ones are way too big, if people want details then follow the link and click on the small charts. But just to add a bit of info, the scale is a bit different in the two charts. For the US the range is 1000-3000 and increments of 200 for Canada it is 1000 to 3500 and increments of 500. Each coloured line is the average kbps for HD movies per carrier, for HD it should be 4800kbps but when the BW is not there the system bumps down the bitrate to minimize troublesome artifacts like judder and so lowers the quality of the video you watch.

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Old 11-30-2012, 05:23 AM   #185
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I don't see it happening. The existence of streaming video didn't prevent my friends and family from buying DVDs and blu-ray in the past. People like the physical copies, and they like having the special features, something streaming services just won't do.
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I don't see it happening. The existence of streaming video didn't prevent my friends and family from buying DVDs and blu-ray in the past. People like the physical copies, and they like having the special features, something streaming services just won't do.
Well, it is April 2013 and bluray is still on the up. Three years to go before all studios drop bluray.

Oh, just an observation from several blogs over several months.

Tablets will replace tv
Smartphones will replace tablets
Phablets will replace both
Blackberry phones will replace tablets
Smartwatches will replace smartphones
Smartwatches will replace tablets
Google glass will replace laptops, desktops and pressure cookers


So,a decade from now, lets enjoy our movie watching on a smartwatch with a 1.5 inch screen. Imagine how great it would look in 4k!
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:16 PM   #187
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Well, it is April 2013 and bluray is still on the up. Three years to go before all studios drop bluray.

Oh, just an observation from several blogs over several months.

Tablets will replace tv
Smartphones will replace tablets
Phablets will replace both
Blackberry phones will replace tablets
Smartwatches will replace smartphones
Smartwatches will replace tablets
Google glass will replace laptops, desktops and pressure cookers


So,a decade from now, lets enjoy our movie watching on a smartwatch with a 1.5 inch screen. Imagine how great it would look in 4k!
Hahaha

You mean you didn't type that comment on your smart lap watch????

I've just read through this thread and find it quite funny that although I have owned a handful of blu's since I got my PS3 a couple of years ago, I have only last month started collecting in earnest & have added over 30 titles in the last month (made for a great birthday list). I've also traded my small collection of DVD's in to the local game store to update my blu ray collection, I find it interesting in the context that the game store still accepts the DVD format, if its on its way out. They have a rather large collection of new and pre-owned DVD movies in their store, surely this indicates consumer demand.

I also tend not to game as much as I used to, but now the PS3 is getting a good workout playing movies. I've recently introduced a few people to a couple of reference discs that have amazed the 'non-believers' of Blu Ray, and I hereby declare it to be every Blu Ray fan to accept it as their duty to convert the masses and hopefully save our favoured flagging format.

I also paid a visit to a couple of game stores on a saturday recently, and it was a free-for-all within the Blu section, there was a lot of folks there looking to stack up with their favourite movies for the night & dare I say? weeks, months and years to come. And I for one would not revert back to a lower quality, I've tried Netflix, Lovefilm and just found the selection to be poor, streaming wise, and didn't want to keep getting discs through the post, not my preferred way, although I understand it works well for others.

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Old 05-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #188
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With the streaming marketing becoming more fragmented than ever, hard to see blu-ray going away any time soon.

I still have Netflix, but the quality of material it provides is much less than what it used to be. I don't want to have to pay for 4+ different service providers to have a reasonable amount of content to watch.
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Hahaha

You mean you didn't type that comment on your smart lap watch????

I've just read through this thread and find it quite funny that although I have owned a handful of blu's since I got my PS3 a couple of years ago, I have only last month started collecting in earnest & have added over 30 titles in the last month (made for a great birthday list). I've also traded my small collection of DVD's in to the local game store to update my blu ray collection, I find it interesting in the context that the game store still accepts the DVD format, if its on its way out. They have a rather large collection of new and pre-owned DVD movies in their store, surely this indicates consumer demand.

I also tend not to game as much as I used to, but now the PS3 is getting a good workout playing movies. I've recently introduced a few people to a couple of reference discs that have amazed the 'non-believers' of Blu Ray, and I hereby declare it to be every Blu Ray fan to accept it as their duty to convert the masses and hopefully save our favoured flagging format.

I also paid a visit to a couple of game stores on a saturday recently, and it was a free-for-all within the Blu section, there was a lot of folks there looking to stack up with their favourite movies for the night & dare I say? weeks, months and years to come. And I for one would not revert back to a lower quality, I've tried Netflix, Lovefilm and just found the selection to be poor, streaming wise, and didn't want to keep getting discs through the post, not my preferred way, although I understand it works well for others.
Yep, I also see people buying blurays a lot more.
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