HBO 3D Sucks - Blu-ray Forum

chickachicka54 · 01-20-2013, 05:50 PM

nowhere near the quality of BD3D. Popouts suck and depth is nonexistent on hbo 3d

chickachicka54 · 01-20-2013, 08:38 PM

anybody have similar experiences?

UFAlien · 01-20-2013, 08:49 PM

What movie did you watch? HBO 3D doesn't work any differently than other stereo 3D systems, there's no reason it would be less deep. It's probably a content issue.

Kurri · 01-20-2013, 09:06 PM

I watched on starz Harold and kumar and I thought it looked great. I am on Verizon so it's fiber optic cable. Would that matter at all for quality?

chickachicka54 · 01-20-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurri

I watched on starz Harold and kumar and I thought it looked great. I am on Verizon so it's fiber optic cable. Would that matter at all for quality?

H&K 3D is the movie I watched, and I thought it looked horrible, little to no depth and hardly and good popouts. I thought it looked fantastic in theatres though

pug1 · 01-20-2013, 10:51 PM

Although DirecTV has 3 (really 2) 3D channels, the Sony one is repetitive, the ESPN 3D sports channel is very hard on the eyes, and the Panasonic one is basically nonexistent. PPV movies are available in 3D at a very premium price of $6.99. No 3D HBO on DirecTV.

Mikeatron85 · 01-20-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chickachicka54

H&K 3D is the movie I watched, and I thought it looked horrible, little to no depth and hardly and good popouts. I thought it looked fantastic in theatres though

I never saw this in theatres, but have seen the Blu-ray 3D and thought it was severely lacking for most of the run time (with the few pop-out exceptions).

AmrlKJaneway · 01-21-2013, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeatron85

I never saw this in theatres, but have seen the Blu-ray 3D and thought it was severely lacking for most of the run time (with the few pop-out exceptions).

I would have seen this in theatres... if Australia let me. So I ordered it from Amazon. That's some Aussie dollars going strait to the US, 'cuz Australia couldn't get its s%^& right. Let that be a lesson to 'em!

But, ramble aside, I agree. There were these few gags throughout the film that I thoroughly enjoyed. They were day 1 test viewing when I got my Sammy. But the rest of the film was flat, flat, flat...

So, chickachicka54, I wouldn't give up on HBO just yet. Unless you've seen H&K on both BD and HBO and still thought HBO was weak. They showing Avatar or Hugo any time soon?

Jsmith82 · 01-21-2013, 02:13 PM

H&K was not my favorite conversion for sure, the post effects added in and CG objects looked good (the eggs, smoke, etc..) but otherwise it seemed like the rotoscoped objects actually filmed had depth, but were very cardboard cutout like.

The depth of a film is what it is, just because one service is providing it over another they can not rerender the film themselves (move the cameras further apart or closer together) in any stronger or lesser 3d - the only thing changeable is the quality of the picture and whether they place the picture against your TV or sunk in a few inches or outward a few inches (like the depth adjustment on your tv), which I'm guessing the broadcast in an over/under format like Starz3D. It's not too bad, like watching an old flick that was cleaned up for a blu-ray release. Not the crispy picture we see today from a BR, but definitely better quality than a DVD.

Watch another flick, preferably something filmed in 3D - you should notice a difference.

chickachicka54 · 01-21-2013, 02:21 PM

H&K 3D was a conversion?

Jsmith82 · 01-21-2013, 02:38 PM

OK - technically no (you are correct), it was filmed mostly in 3d but some spots seemed so flat, I have read around that there were converted parts. Left a bad taste in my mouth. I could be 100% wrong though... I'm going off my own experience and some things I've read around the interwebz which we all know can't tell a lie..

EDIT: If the entire thing was filmed in 3D I would definitely put this low on my list for quality, and actually I'm a little bit floored by the lack of good content. But that is my own opinion, not talking for the majority.

brian9229 · 01-21-2013, 04:31 PM

Are you just figuring this out? Ive yet to see any broadcast 3d that isnt awful.

chickachicka54 · 01-21-2013, 08:48 PM

Just watched Journey 2 3D on HBO VOD. while much better 3D than H&K, It still didn't pop nearly as much or had the same depth when I saw it on BD3D at my friends house. Is it because It is SBS 3d?

Mikeatron85 · 01-21-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chickachicka54

Just watched Journey 2 3D on HBO VOD. while much better 3D than H&K, It still didn't pop nearly as much or had the same depth when I saw it on BD3D at my friends house. Is it because It is SBS 3d?

Well, immediately you lose half the resolution of the Blu-ray so it's not going to look as good regardless. The 3D depth/pop-out *should* be the same but it's amazing how differently we perceive these things when the resolution just isn't there.

Haha AmrlKJaneway - exactly the same with us mate! Friends and I were super keen to see that but had to resort to ordering online. Didn't this only just get released on Blu-ray here a month or two ago? Talk about delayed.

Operation Swordfish · 01-22-2013, 02:46 AM

I will absolutely agree. So far I have watched 2 movies from HBO's 3D choices and the picture quality was pretty bad and the ghosting was awful. Now before anyone says its just my equipment, one of the movies I watched on HBO I also have on Blu-Ray 3D. I just watched it to compare the two, and there was little to no ghosting whatsoever on my Blu-Ray 3D.

AmrlKJaneway · 01-22-2013, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeatron85

Well, immediately you lose half the resolution of the Blu-ray so it's not going to look as good regardless. The 3D depth/pop-out *should* be the same but it's amazing how differently we perceive these things when the resolution just isn't there.

Haha AmrlKJaneway - exactly the same with us mate! Friends and I were super keen to see that but had to resort to ordering online. Didn't this only just get released on Blu-ray here a month or two ago? Talk about delayed.

Yeah, they did what I assumed and waited for a Christmas release. I think a Christmas release not at Christmas time is a marketing nightmare. Although I don't understand not releasing a popular franchise in cinemas at all... guess the other two didn't do great numbers over here. Always packed cinemas for me... Anyway, the long wait is why I knew I needed to order it.

We get most things on time though. Still no 3D TV stations that I know of, so I don't know what we're doing in this thread. But watching South Park is actually funny these days because the references are fresh and relevant, and we get to brag to yanks about seeing Marvel movies a week or two early, so I better not complain too much.

HD Goofnut · 01-22-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brian9229

Are you just figuring this out? Ive yet to see any broadcast 3d that isnt awful.

Live sports shot with 3D cameras are impressive.

Briscoe1019 · 01-23-2013, 01:33 PM

Cable is 1080i. Split that in two for a left image feed and a right image feed and you are watching 3D in only 540i.... hence the subpar image quality.

brian9229 · 02-02-2013, 03:52 PM

Are you just figuring this out? It has always sucked.

01-20-2013, 05:50 PM	#1
chickachicka54 Member Member since:Dec 2012	HBO 3D Sucks nowhere near the quality of BD3D. Popouts suck and depth is nonexistent on hbo 3d

01-20-2013, 10:51 PM	#6
pug1 Member Member since:Nov 2011 Location:PA Blu-ray reviews:3	Although DirecTV has 3 (really 2) 3D channels, the Sony one is repetitive, the ESPN 3D sports channel is very hard on the eyes, and the Panasonic one is basically nonexistent. PPV movies are available in 3D at a very premium price of $6.99. No 3D HBO on DirecTV. KDL-55HX729, KDL-52EX701, PS3, Sony BDP-S590, Panasonic BDT210, Bravia STR-DH820

01-21-2013, 02:38 PM	#11
Jsmith82 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Missouri, USA Blu-ray collection:53	OK - technically no (you are correct), it was filmed mostly in 3d but some spots seemed so flat, I have read around that there were converted parts. Left a bad taste in my mouth. I could be 100% wrong though... I'm going off my own experience and some things I've read around the interwebz which we all know can't tell a lie.. EDIT: If the entire thing was filmed in 3D I would definitely put this low on my list for quality, and actually I'm a little bit floored by the lack of good content. But that is my own opinion, not talking for the majority. Last edited by Jsmith82; 01-21-2013 at 02:55 PM.

01-21-2013, 04:31 PM	#12
brian9229 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Burlington, Vt Steelbooks-23 Home Theater Gallery:34 Blu-ray collection:298 DVD collection:55 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:3	Are you just figuring this out? Ive yet to see any broadcast 3d that isnt awful. Samsung Smart LED 3DTV 120hz Model - un40d6420 Panasonic 3D Bluray player Model - DMP-BDT320 Magnavox Bluray player Model - NB530MGX Xbox 360 4gb Monster Hyper3D 1000 HDMI x 3 Monster Powercentre model - HT700 Samsung Active 3D glasses model - SSG-3050GB x 5

01-22-2013, 02:46 AM	#15
Operation Swordfish Active Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:115 DVD collection:346 PS3 collection:16 Blu-ray reviews:10	I will absolutely agree. So far I have watched 2 movies from HBO's 3D choices and the picture quality was pretty bad and the ghosting was awful. Now before anyone says its just my equipment, one of the movies I watched on HBO I also have on Blu-Ray 3D. I just watched it to compare the two, and there was little to no ghosting whatsoever on my Blu-Ray 3D. "Not everything ends the way you think it should."

01-20-2013, 08:38 PM	#2
chickachicka54 Member Member since:Dec 2012	anybody have similar experiences?

01-20-2013, 08:49 PM	#3
UFAlien Expert Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:46 PS3 collection:3 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:3	What movie did you watch? HBO 3D doesn't work any differently than other stereo 3D systems, there's no reason it would be less deep. It's probably a content issue.

01-20-2013, 09:06 PM	#4
Kurri Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 Blu-ray collection:285 Trading Score:1	I watched on starz Harold and kumar and I thought it looked great. I am on Verizon so it's fiber optic cable. Would that matter at all for quality?

01-21-2013, 02:13 PM	#9
Jsmith82 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Missouri, USA Blu-ray collection:53	H&K was not my favorite conversion for sure, the post effects added in and CG objects looked good (the eggs, smoke, etc..) but otherwise it seemed like the rotoscoped objects actually filmed had depth, but were very cardboard cutout like. The depth of a film is what it is, just because one service is providing it over another they can not rerender the film themselves (move the cameras further apart or closer together) in any stronger or lesser 3d - the only thing changeable is the quality of the picture and whether they place the picture against your TV or sunk in a few inches or outward a few inches (like the depth adjustment on your tv), which I'm guessing the broadcast in an over/under format like Starz3D. It's not too bad, like watching an old flick that was cleaned up for a blu-ray release. Not the crispy picture we see today from a BR, but definitely better quality than a DVD. Watch another flick, preferably something filmed in 3D - you should notice a difference.

01-21-2013, 02:21 PM	#10
chickachicka54 Member Member since:Dec 2012	H&K 3D was a conversion?

01-21-2013, 08:48 PM	#13
chickachicka54 Member Member since:Dec 2012	Just watched Journey 2 3D on HBO VOD. while much better 3D than H&K, It still didn't pop nearly as much or had the same depth when I saw it on BD3D at my friends house. Is it because It is SBS 3d?

01-23-2013, 01:33 PM	#18
Briscoe1019 Member Member since:Oct 2011	Cable is 1080i. Split that in two for a left image feed and a right image feed and you are watching 3D in only 540i.... hence the subpar image quality. Sony XBR 65HX950, Oppo BDP103, Yamaha RX-3800, original PS3 60gfat.

02-02-2013, 03:52 PM	#19
brian9229 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Burlington, Vt Steelbooks-23 Home Theater Gallery:34 Blu-ray collection:298 DVD collection:55 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:3	Are you just figuring this out? It has always sucked. Samsung Smart LED 3DTV 120hz Model - un40d6420 Panasonic 3D Bluray player Model - DMP-BDT320 Magnavox Bluray player Model - NB530MGX Xbox 360 4gb Monster Hyper3D 1000 HDMI x 3 Monster Powercentre model - HT700 Samsung Active 3D glasses model - SSG-3050GB x 5

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