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Old 09-13-2010, 06:44 AM   #1
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It is incredible (at least for me) how quickly is this film released in Russia. It is special edition (Blu-ray + DVD + gift?).

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Old 09-13-2010, 12:19 PM   #2
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It is incredible (at least for me) how quickly is this film released in Russia. It is special edition (Blu-ray + DVD + gift?)
It would seem, however, that it is a Russian dubbed version only. A similar release appeared for Shutter Island back in March/April, I believe.
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Old 09-13-2010, 03:12 PM   #3
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Hey guys, I want to know how much blu rays released in Russia cost.
And do they usually have english losseless as well?
As for the Russian tracks, are they in losseless too or not.
And are there any companies or shops that ship international.

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Old 09-13-2010, 05:05 PM   #4
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Hey guys, I want to know how much blu rays released in Russia cost.
And do they usually have english losseless as well?
As for the Russian tracks, are they in losseless too or not.
And are there any companies or shops that ship international.

Thanks.
Hi Marcus Wright,

Depending on your location, it is likely that, due to the Russian economy, Blu-rays are quite inexpensive. Andrei Rublev, for instance, cost me US $21 shipped with Russian Air Mail. Moreover, the vast majority seem to be coded Region ABC (Russia itself is Region C) and a few releases of Russian-language films include English subtitles. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Russian releases are domestic editions of previously released American films, as the Russian industry itself is only just beginning to put out their own titles. With other words, excepting a few classic Russian films released through MosFilm, there are very few English-friendly Russian discs worth importing otherwise, as you could simply purchase an American edition with far less complications.

Another issue is the importing itself. In recent times, many major Russian online vendors have ceased shipping outside the Russian Federation. For the time being, it seems that only Kniga.ru will ship internationally, and their site is not English-frienddly unless you use something like the Google Toolbar to translate the pages on the fly as you browse.
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:02 PM   #5
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It would seem, however, that it is a Russian dubbed version only.
As you might expect, this release is being widely pirated and the BDInfo reports provided indicate that this contains the English track, but only in DD 448kbps.

They also say that the foreign language portions (apparently they speak Spanish in this movie?) have burned-in Russian subtitles, but there is also an English subtitle track for the whole movie so you can turn that on during those portions, albeit with iffy translation.

I'd like to thank you for your previous posts about how to order from that site. I placed an order based on your information. I was thinking maybe a step-by-step guide would be helpful so I took screenshots at each step of registration/ordering but I'm not sure if I should post them until after I actually receive something from them to make sure I did it right.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:37 AM   #6
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EDIT

Can we do a group buy for this one?

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Old 09-14-2010, 12:44 AM   #7
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:52 AM   #8
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The stills don't look that bad, but they certainly don't pop out with the sharpness.

If someone is doing a group buy, will buy it.
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Wow, the feature is a mere 8.21 GB in size...
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:40 AM   #10
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That has to be a typo.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:59 AM   #11
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As you might expect, this release is being widely pirated and the BDInfo reports provided indicate that this contains the English track, but only in DD 448kbps.
I guess the pirate's sites have the "remastered" version.
Russian BD does not have the English track or subtitles. I don't have this disc but the info on DVDTalk.ru uses to be reliable.
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I'd still like to buy it.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:19 AM   #13
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Wow, the feature is a mere 8.21 GB in size...
I think it was mistranslated to 21.8 GB.

1 x Blu-ray-25 (21.8 Гбайт) A, B, C
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:12 AM   #14
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Hi Marcus Wright,

Depending on your location, it is likely that, due to the Russian economy, Blu-rays are quite inexpensive. Andrei Rublev, for instance, cost me US $21 shipped with Russian Air Mail. Moreover, the vast majority seem to be coded Region ABC (Russia itself is Region C) and a few releases of Russian-language films include English subtitles. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Russian releases are domestic editions of previously released American films, as the Russian industry itself is only just beginning to put out their own titles. With other words, excepting a few classic Russian films released through MosFilm, there are very few English-friendly Russian discs worth importing otherwise, as you could simply purchase an American edition with far less complications.
If you know what we had in previous years, you would not say so.
Sellers used to sell Blu-rays at ridiculous USD 40-50+ range (while Europe and US had options to buy the same for 20-30) and publishers did not care much for sales figures.
Things started to change towards consumer about a year ago. Fox decreased pricing to $ 12-16 for older movies and 30-35 for new ones.
Other publishers had to follow, but some remain quite stubborn (e.g. Disney).

Vast majority of Russian releases of foreign movies goes through major publishers and thus identical to internationally released editions (original language, bunch of language tracks and subtitles). In such case, the authoring is not done in Russia. Most releases are coded ABC, but some Disney and Fox titles can be BC. Russian language tracks are most likely to be DD 5.1 or sometimes 2.0 (The Mummy from Universal had DD 2.0 192 kbps russian sound - worse than dvd level). Russian subtitles are not always present.

There were some barebones, crappy releases with no original language or with forced subtitles, but in case of Fox, there were subsequent proper re-releases (e.g. Wolverine). Unfortunately, some movies, like '9' of Universal, were never re-released properly.

The situation is different with local publishers. There are some good ones, who will give lossless Russian sound on their releases (but the original sound is not always present), while others will release very early in bad quality. The infamous 'Shutter Island' from Soyuz was not only barebone, but had 'cigarette burns'.

Domestic movies are few, most of releases contain no english audio or subtitles, so you always need to check if you need them.
Mosfilm did the first batch, but other promised releases are delayed for some reason.

I heard, there is a couple of releases that are C-coded, but they are exception. Except that, all others are either ABC or BC.

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Another issue is the importing itself. In recent times, many major Russian online vendors have ceased shipping outside the Russian Federation. For the time being, it seems that only Kniga.ru will ship internationally, ...
Allegedly, this is due to Russian Customs, who prohibited such export.
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Allegedly, this is due to Russian Customs, who prohibited such export.
So, is it not allowed to send Blu-rays out of Russia? I'm wanting to get a copy of this.
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So, is it not allowed to send Blu-rays out of Russia? I'm wanting to get a copy of this.
Well it is certainly allowed to export from private person. As for companies, I heard rumors that mass export by ozon.ru was stopped after some customs influence. The real reason for such restriction for 'big' online shops still remains very unclear, only rumors. But that's how it works, anyway.
That kniga.ru may be so small, that nobody pays attention to it.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:28 PM   #17
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Why does anyone want this blu-ray since it only has a Russian dubbed soundtrack?
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:17 AM   #18
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For me, I'd buy it since it's a legit release.
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I'm thinking of picking this up, is this available in other stores besides kniga?
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