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Old 08-05-2014, 05:58 AM   #361
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Zombieween 2 is an absolute masterpiece.

I don't mind it, either. Both of his Halloween films have grown on me a lot.
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Old 08-05-2014, 12:59 PM   #362
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Not a fan of his first 2007 Remake, but Halloween 2 (2009) is the best entry in the franchise outside Carpenters 1978 original.
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:19 PM   #363
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Why? I can understand Batman Forever and Batman & Robin... but Batman '89? I love that film...
It's odd how that film has turned into a classic over time. It got some terrible reviews when it originally came out and I thought they were deserved. I didn't know many people who were adults like me then who really liked the film.

Anyways, here are my reasons:

I find Batman poorly paced, Kim Basinger is incredibly bland, Jack Nicholson is too old and fat for the Joker and does one of his OTT performances I don't care for. I get that they cast him for his trademark grin, he probably would have been great a decade or two earlier, before he became a caricature of himself. I still think Michael Keaton was miscast, but at least he does his best to make it work. The main reason he was cast is because Burton liked working with him on Beetlejuice, Keaton was his Johnny Depp at the time, but he wasn't cast because he fitted the part.

The sets and look of the film were overrated, most of Gotham looks just like one street corner they endlessly reuse. The Gotham in Batman Returns was far more impressive and actually felt like a city rather than a set. Worst of all are the Prince numbers which they shoehorned into the film and they stop the whole thing dead every time. I like Prince, but what are his songs doing there other than selling soundtrack albums ? The only thing I do like is the Danny Elfman score.

It's so obviously a film which suffered huge studio interference and with Batman Returns I felt Burton got the make the Batman film he always wanted to make. That film gets most things right, especially a great Catwoman in Michelle Pfeiffer. Michael Keaton looks more comfortable even if I still don't buy him as Batman or Bruce Wayne. Only the absurd penguin attack climax lets things down and suffers from Burton not having a clue how to direct action.

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Old 08-05-2014, 09:33 PM   #364
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Not a fan of his first 2007 Remake, but Halloween 2 (2009) is the best entry in the franchise outside Carpenters 1978 original.
I'd say Halloween II and III were both far better than Zombieween 2. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:46 PM   #365
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I don't like either Halloween II much.

There is a Norwegian slasher film called Cold Prey which is good fun, but I think its sequel Cold Prey II is even better. It plays like an unofficial remake of Carpenter and Rosenthal's Halloween II only it's the film I wished Halloween II had been. It has most of the same elements, with the surviving lead of the first film being taken to an almost deserted hospital and the Michael Myers style killer from the first film continuing to stalk her there, while also offing nurses and doctors left right and centre.

It does everything right I felt Halloween II did wrong, especially it gives us a resourceful heroine with a proper character arc rather than one who whimpers or is sedated for much of the film, like Laurie was in Halloween II. Jamie Lee Curtis was wasted in Halloween II, but the (very good) actress in Cold Prey II does a Ripley and goes from traumatised victim of the first film to avenger by the end of the second.

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It's odd how that film has turned into a classic over time. It got some terrible reviews when it originally came out and I thought they were deserved. I didn't know many people who were adults like me then who really liked the film.
The movie was a phenomenon at the time, not just with kids but with adults as well. Dislike it if you want, but don't try and pretend it was always a kid's movie. If anything it was the opposite.
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:22 AM   #367
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Final Destination 2 is very underrated. I like it better than the first one.
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The movie was a phenomenon at the time, not just with kids but with adults as well. Dislike it if you want, but don't try and pretend it was always a kid's movie. If anything it was the opposite.
I was working in a bar when Batman 89 came out and if memory serves it was quite popular among 20/30somethings. At least the ones that drank, anyway.

And for my money it's aged pretty well too.
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Alien 3
Predator 2
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Final Destination 2 is very underrated. I like it better than the first one.
It has some of the best kills ever.

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It has some of the best kills ever.
IMO, the best scene was when
[Show spoiler]that one guy won the lottery, got all those phone calls and got his eyes impaled by that ladder.
That was my favorite death scene of the entire franchise. The song that was played during that scene was a song called Vitamin by the band Incubus. Great band and great song!
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Not a fan of his first 2007 Remake, but Halloween 2 (2009) is the best entry in the franchise outside Carpenters 1978 original.
I agree, it's a bold statement, but I agree. Although I do also like Zombieween 1 a lot, but it's merely a very well done film, not the sheer insanity of Z2.
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Speaking of slashers, Freddy's Revenge is the best Nightmare movie. They are for the most part all pretty good, but I do like that one the best.
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IMO, the best scene was when
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That was my favorite death scene of the entire franchise. The song that was played during that scene was a song called Vitamin by the band Incubus. Great band and great song!
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[Show spoiler] the barbed wire fence. The look on the guys face was like, "Ohhhhh noooo!"

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The movie was a phenomenon at the time, not just with kids but with adults as well. Dislike it if you want, but don't try and pretend it was always a kid's movie. If anything it was the opposite.
Where did I say it was a kids movie? Your habit of quoting and then misinterpreting what I'm writing is growing tiresome. All I said is that the adults I knew were less impressed by the film than younger viewers and that it got some bad reviews in its day. I know that financially it was a huge hit, but that doesn't always mean much in terms of quality.

Someone questioned why I didn't like the film and I gave them my personal opinion.

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Final Destination 2 is very underrated. I like it better than the first one.
I too think it's the best in the series, but then quite a few people do. It's a great sequel in that it builds on the mythology and then subverts viewers expectations. I also think it's got the best bunch of characters. I think 5 is the second best film and the first film would come third for me. I do enjoy them all though, thE only horro franchise where that's the case for me and while 4 may be the weakest film, it's considerably improved by its great use of 3D.

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I still think "Batman Forever" is a great sequel, much better than either "Batman Returns" or "Batman & Robin". So many people just place the last two together because Schumacher directed them both, but the main reason "Batman & Robin" bombed was because WB constructed it as an extended toy commercial. The tone is barely one step away from the 1960s series, with not much treated seriously. By contrast, "Batman Forever" has a lot of emotional weight, and the villains are genuinely threatening instead of ridiculous like Poison Ivy or the dumbed-down version of Bane.
I never understood the hate for it either. It was a bit of a lighter tone and has a few silly moments but for the most part, it holds up well. It has a different look than the first 2 which might be part of it. The first 2 were almost a period piece set back in the 30-50's where as this one was a lot more modern looking. I think it got a lot of heat because Burton wasn't there anymore.
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I never understood the hate for it either. It was a bit of a lighter tone and has a few silly moments but for the most part, it holds up well. It has a different look than the first 2 which might be part of it. The first 2 were almost a period piece set back in the 30-50's where as this one was a lot more modern looking. I think it got a lot of heat because Burton wasn't there anymore.
I also think Kilmer was given more to do as Bruce, than Keaton.
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