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Old 04-23-2015, 01:06 PM   #1141
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I've always liked Voyager, but I think that has something to do with a bit of nostalgia for me. Voyager was the series that was on when I was in junior high and high school, and as big Trek fans my mom and I never missed it when it aired.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:25 PM   #1142
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:04 PM   #1143
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The worse offender was Parallax - what should have played out over seasons was essentially played out, and ruined, in one episode.
Year of Hell should've actually been a season's worth of storytelling, and supposedly that's what they wanted to do but UPN wouldn't allow it so we have the trademark Voyager reset button where nothing bad ever happens.
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:15 PM   #1145
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Year of Hell should've actually been a season's worth of storytelling, and supposedly that's what they wanted to do but UPN wouldn't allow it so we have the trademark Voyager reset button where nothing bad ever happens.
Blame Jeri Taylor. She convinced UPN that Braga and Berman were wrong about a season-long story arc...
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:07 PM   #1146
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On a slightly different note, Here is an interesting kickstarter project...

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Oh boy. I thought originally Simon Pegg said he wanted the movie to be more like Star Trek of old. Now he says its going to be even less so.
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Oh boy. I thought originally Simon Pegg said he wanted the movie to be more like Star Trek of old. Now he says its going to be even less so.
Where is this quote?
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:30 PM   #1150
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So Paramount wants Serenity but they want it to make $1.5 billion more than what that took home at the box office?
I would trade all of your souls for it to be Dec 18 already.
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:02 AM   #1151
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And they seem to think that every big event movie should be making $1.5 billion every time...the original script was "too Star Trek-y"....words fail me. I'd rather see Star Trek lay dormant than have it bastardised any further by these clueless ****s.

As for Pegg, he's starting to get a serious case of luvvie-itis, he's becoming a bigger douchebag by the minute.
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wow, this is all I can say about my expectations for this movie now

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Old 05-20-2015, 04:13 PM   #1153
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What is Star Trek? I have been fascinated to see this question playing out in the media and fandom every since JJ Abrams rebooted the series. Over the last couple of years I've begun to suspect something about how people (in general, not everybody) are defining Star Trek: in the light of the tedious Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Why do I say that? Because the latest words from Simon Pegg (a man who apparently breathes internet napalm, setting fires every time he opens his mouth) has gotten people upset about the direction of Star Trek Beyond, and I can only understand this upsetment if people think all Star Trek is Star Trek: The Next Generation:

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"They had a script for Star Trek that wasn't really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little too Star Trek-y."
That was Orci's script. But what does 'a little too Star Trek-y' mean?

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"Avengers Assemble, which is a pretty nerdy, comic-book, supposedly niche thing, made $1.5 billion dollars. Star Trek: Into Darkness made half a billion, which is still brilliant. But it means that, according to the studio, there's still $1 billion worth of box office that don't go and see Star Trek. And they want to know why.

People don't see it being a fun, brightly coloured, Saturday night entertainment like the Avengers. [So they want to] make a western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it's more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent."
I read that last bit and I say to myself... oh, they just want to make it like the original Star Trek TV show. A show that was pitched as Wagon Train To The Stars, a space western. A show that had episodes where Kirk and Spock found themselves on a planet ruled by 1930s mafioso, a show where the spirit of Jack the Ripper took over Scotty and a show where one of the greatest episodes is a submarine battle story. They had episodes that were courtroom dramas and episodes that were love stories. To me that is Star Trek - a bunch of different genres and story types into which the Trek characters are inserted. What's more, most of the best episodes of Star Trek are, to me, fun. And brightly colo(u)red - one of the best things about watching Trek on Blu is the popping, bright colors of the series, which the network pushed to the limits to make the most of brand-new color TVs.

Taken with Pegg's recent thoughts about geekdom and pop culture, I find this sort of... encouraging? I'd love to see a big screen Trek that feels like a Western or a heist movie. The opening of Search for Spock has that element, and The Enterprise Incident, where Kirk goes undercover as a Romulan to steal a cloaking device, is just a big spy/heist story. I would watch a movie that is like Specter of the Gun, where a weird alien godthing makes the crew reenact the gunfight at the OK Corrall. I'd watch a movie that is like Arena, where Kirk is forced to fight a lizard man. There has been this retconning of Trek, in the shadow of Next Generation, where people think the show is staid and sort of serious and scholarly and dull. It wasn't - at least the real show wasn't.

I don't know - on the surface everything Paramount wants sounds like it's in line with the original series. And if Pegg can work to make that pop, fun story have meaning and thematic weight - well, this could still be one of the best Trek movies yet.
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And they seem to think that every big event movie should be making $1.5 billion every time...the original script was "too Star Trek-y"....words fail me. I'd rather see Star Trek lay dormant than have it bastardised any further by these clueless ****s.

As for Pegg, he's starting to get a serious case of luvvie-itis, he's becoming a bigger douchebag by the minute.
I can imagine the amount of back-peddling they'll do after the next movie hits, they should be able to wave to Superman as he tries to bring Lois back to life.

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Some very fair points in Walt's news article about the candy-coloured fun factor of the original series, but there were morality plays mixed in with the gangster planets and whatnot. That's what was so great about the show, whereas now it sounds very much like Paramount simply want a Marvel movie in space every time, and to hell with any of the social commentary which, yes, even TOS addressed from time to time. And TNG was "tedious"? **** off.

Under JJ's auspices we've already had two very pretty and very action-packed Trek movies so why can't we have something a bit more on the cerebral side third time out? Without an accompanying TV series to do more of the intellectual heavy lifting (which is what allowed the movies the freedom to be a bit broader) it seems as if nuTrek is getting dumber with each new instalment.
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Wow, I thought Devin Faraci's fanboy style writing about the Marvel films put him and I on opposite ends of the movie fan spectrum, but calling TNG tedious and boring? Good lord...

Anyway, watering everything down to try and make it a 1.5 billion dollar mainstream pop entertainment hit usually ends up losing you the fans you have, rather than gaining new ones. Studios need to budget and market films to the audiences they have, not shoot for the stars with every franchise. I feel like this is a 40 year old broken record at this point though.
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Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. Its 5-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

It was a TV series, so with that many episodes they had to be creative with all sorts of stories. But the above is the core of what makes it Star Trek.
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[Show spoiler]Some very fair points in Walt's news article about the candy-coloured fun factor of the original series, but there were morality plays mixed in with the gangster planets and whatnot. That's what was so great about the show, whereas now it sounds very much like Paramount simply want a Marvel movie in space every time, and to hell with any of the social commentary which, yes, even TOS addressed from time to time
. And TNG was "tedious"? **** off.

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in my youth, waiting an entire week for one of 22 episodes?. It did become tedious. it had incredible moments, but It had it's fair share of repetition. as a youngster, I got tired of the ambassadorial role the Enterprise would be tasked with quite often. Got shit tired of Mr Data trying to find his humanity, which is something that plagued the movies something shocking.

fwiw, after all is said and done it's my second fav show!. and really enjoy visiting each episode on blu.
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