Taken - Messed up subtitles?

[McClane29]

Couldn't find a thread on this release in the UK forums sorry, so have made my own. I'm just wondering about Neeson's Taken on blu-ray, where foreign languages are spoken in the film (mostly French, Albanian). From what I have read from the region 2 release of 'Taken', is that English subs do not appear in these foreign language parts - unless full subs are selected.

Apparently this problem was fixed for the US release, but not for us here. However, the reviewer from the main blu-ray.com site has questioned whether english subs were even supposed to have been included:

This being said, there is a very small portion of Taken where Liam Neeson confronts a gang of Albanian human traffickers where French and Albanian are spoken but English subtitles aren’t offered. From what I understand, some viewers are convinced that English subtitles should have been included. Well, this could very well be the case, but I would not be surprised if this is how Taken was meant to be seen by English-speaking audiences - unsubbed. On the other hand, I am fairly certain that this UK Blu-ray release is an exact replica of the French Blu-ray release, so 20th Century Fox might have just dropped the ball on the English subtitles. For the record, the Blu-ray disc also offers optional English HOH, Castellan, German, Italian and Russian subtitles.

http://uk.blu-ray.com/movies/Taken-Blu-ray/2461/

Can anyone with this title on blu-ray actually say that the subtitles problem exists, and whether you think that it has a negative effect on the release of the film? I really loved Taken when I watched it in the cinema, but I don't want to waste nearly £18 on a poor blu release. Thanks for any info.

[Sky_Captain]

Yeah, the subs don't pop up automatically like they should, but the dialogue is in the optional English language subtitle stream if I remember. Now I saw the film theatrically, so I knew the dialogue. People have claimed,(wrongly), that it works better this way and puts you more in the head of Neeson's character. This is patently BS, as the conversation with his French contact and his family goes on far, far too long not to be subbed, plus Neeson's character isn't there, is he f**king psychic as well?

So, take from that what you will and don't be paying no £18 for ANY local blu ray disc, let alone Taken.

[manicsounds]

The UK DVD release has the subtitles for the French dialogue. Seems strange to leave them off the BD

[Sky_Captain]

Just Fox being lazy f**kers as per usual.

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Just Fox being lazy f**kers as per usual.

Yeah they go all out don't they.
- Back cover pictures from the wrong frigging movie on the UK Hills Have Eyes
- The RB release of AvP Requiem cut. The RA version of it uncut but stuffed up in a couple of spots
- Die Hard 4 theatrical release...

[McClane29]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Yeah, the subs don't pop up automatically like they should, but the dialogue is in the optional English language subtitle stream if I remember. Now I saw the film theatrically, so I knew the dialogue. People have claimed,(wrongly), that it works better this way and puts you more in the head of Neeson's character. This is patently BS, as the conversation with his French contact and his family goes on far, far too long not to be subbed, plus Neeson's character isn't there, is he f**king psychic as well?

So, take from that what you will and don't be paying no £18 for ANY local blu ray disc, let alone Taken.

The scenes where Neeson isn't even in, clearly shows that something has to be up with the blu. I've got a voucher to use online so think I may just go for Taken anyhow. There's no chance of there being a re-release in the near future.

Thanks for the help.

[Simon_LDT]

Just bumping this one.

I've just finished watching this and I don't see which scene/s the subtitles are meant to pop up. There are a few small parts where some of the 'bad' guys are speaking foreign although they are extremely short scenes and I personally felt it didn't really need subbing.

Might just be me though.

[Sky_Captain]

It's subtitled on the US BD. Case closed, Fox cocked up our disc.

[Simon_LDT]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

It's subtitled on the US BD. Case closed, Fox cocked up our disc.

Oh I understand it should have been subbed. However I'm trying to point out that it's not a massive deal on this particular release (imo). If it was crucial to the story and a long detailed scene/s then it would have been vital. But from what I watched last night it seemed to not be an issue.

[Sky_Captain]

To be fair, you could watch Taken with the sound off and still follow the story, lol

[RDA]

Just bought this and was frustrated to experience the lack of subtitles. This is unquestionably a mistake by Fox. Really irritating!

[Ben_UK]

Is there a version which will play on region B players but doesn't have messed up subs?

[sapphire_nick]

Bump - was this ever rectified?

[blurayoliver]

Don't think so, my steelbook edition has the same issue, maybe though the discs are the same as the standard amaray release, but I don't think there was every a re-print with correct subtitles

[sapphire_nick]

Thanks for that - was it rectified in the USA version does anyone know?

[Sky_Captain]

It was never an issue on the US release,

[sapphire_nick]

Is there anything missing on the USA release or is it the best one to go for?

[manicsounds]

US version is much better. 2 versions of the film and commentary tracks as well.

[sapphire_nick]

Okay perfect! Thanks for this - I will pick up the USA version!