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Old 01-14-2016, 05:36 PM   #8021
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There are films only receiving proper releases on blu-ray NOW, and this format has been around a while. Three years for UHD is an unreasonable assumption when talking about most films you love. As been said, the only thing that may help Jurassic Park get a better release is, yes, the Jurassic World sequel. Even then we will have to worry about which color timing they'll use. As nice as JP looked in 3D, I really wished the original color timing was in play. It bothers me more to think all future iterations of that film's release may look 'wrong'... And in that case, I'll gladly cling to the current Blu.
Except it isn't wrong. You're going off the NTSC-based color timing of the old video versions. Not the original theatrical release.
I have stills in the 1993 Cinefex that match the 3D-BD's yellowish/brown cast.


Same thing for people that insist Hoth wasn't blue in The Empire Strikes Back.
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:40 PM   #8022
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So is there any benefit to getting the 3D version over the 2D one (I don't have a 3D TV)?
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:48 PM   #8023
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So is there any benefit to getting the 3D version over the 2D one (I don't have a 3D TV)?
If you don't have a 3D TV i don't believe there is any reason to buy the 3D version. Besides, if you check the review on the site here the 2D version has fantastic ratings.
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Except it isn't wrong. You're going off the NTSC-based color timing of the old video versions. Not the original theatrical release.
I have stills in the 1993 Cinefex that match the 3D-BD's yellowish/brown cast.
The stills I saw suggested the proper timing is in-between the two BD masters. The 3D one looks way too warm.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:48 PM   #8025
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Except it isn't wrong. You're going off the NTSC-based color timing of the old video versions. Not the original theatrical release.
I have stills in the 1993 Cinefex that match the 3D-BD's yellowish/brown cast.


Same thing for people that insist Hoth wasn't blue in The Empire Strikes Back.
Wow. Well, if it was in a magazine, then I guess that's got to be our reference.

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The stills I saw suggested the proper timing is in-between the two BD masters. The 3D one looks way too warm.
This is an argument I'd actually be more willing to concede with. Maybe the original Blu-ray is a little over-saturated or a little too close to the 'cool' spectrum... but the 3D release, as you said, is too warm. I know there are people who say 'yeah, I remember it that way in theaters', and we all laugh at them, but Jurassic Park was a major event in my childhood. I saw this thing in theaters multiple times, and I'm never going to forget it.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:57 PM   #8026
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Wow. Well, if it was in a magazine, then I guess that's got to be our reference.
Cinefex is a $12.50 a pop magazine with extreme high quality used as reference by the VFX industry.


Yet people around here view anonymous captures on cheap computer monitors and take them as gospel.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:17 AM   #8027
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Cinefex is a $12.50 a pop magazine with extreme high quality used as reference by the VFX industry.


Yet people around here view anonymous captures on cheap computer monitors and take them as gospel.
I'll take a screenshot taken straight from a blu-ray over a magazine picture any day. Promotional material is often different than what is seen in theaters, trailers included.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:21 AM   #8028
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I'll take a screenshot taken straight from a blu-ray over a magazine picture any day. Promotional material is often different than what is seen in theaters, trailers included.

It's not promotional material, it's actual shots from the film.

And again, the BD - nor the screenshot - should be taken as gospel as how the film *should* look.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:29 AM   #8029
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Steven Spielberg himself supervised the 4k remaster and the color timing.
It's just too dark and DNR'd (thanks to the 3D process).
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:37 PM   #8030
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Steven Spielberg himself supervised the 4k remaster and the color timing.
It's just too dark and DNR'd (thanks to the 3D process).
I'm fine with the changes to the new transfer but not the added DNR! Top Gun has grain even if it might be added on top so can't see why all 3D must be blank like a babys butt And there hopefully is a unmolested 4K 2D transfer in there somewhere, come on Universal.....
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Old 01-17-2016, 11:11 PM   #8031
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Guys...guys...

'Jurassic Park' Returning to Big Screen With Live Orchestra
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:03 AM   #8032
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Source for the screening, the old terrible 2D Blu-ray??? Or 4k restored?
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:58 PM   #8033
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OK, pardon my questioning here, but is it returning to ONE theater with a live orchestra like they did for ET? If so, then OK. If anything else, then I'm not sure I understand this post.
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:27 AM   #8035
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:42 AM   #8038
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4k restoration?


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Old 02-12-2016, 06:11 AM   #8039
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Wow. Well, if it was in a magazine, then I guess that's got to be our reference.

This is an argument I'd actually be more willing to concede with. Maybe the original Blu-ray is a little over-saturated or a little too close to the 'cool' spectrum... but the 3D release, as you said, is too warm. I know there are people who say 'yeah, I remember it that way in theaters', and we all laugh at them, but Jurassic Park was a major event in my childhood. I saw this thing in theaters multiple times, and I'm never going to forget it.
The problem with "I remember that in theaters" is just how many possible factors there are at play. How good is your memory? How good is your vision? How well do you see color? How well was the particular print you viewed at your theater reproduced on the screen? How well was the print you saw made? Etc., etc. All of this is to say that there are a multitude of little things that can affect how one views a film, regardless of format, and what they remember. What if you see color a little differently than others? What if the particular print you saw was somehow too contrasted, with more light and brighter colors? What if it was damaged? What if the projectors they used at your theater were of poor quality? And on and on.

Sure, this is a boatload of if's, but the fact that there are so many keeps me from taking anything anyone says about a movie they saw in a theater as gospel, unless they just walked out. Much less a film from 1993. Jurassic Park and its first sequel were also major events of MY childhood, but I'm inclined to give Spielberg's new interpretation the benefit of the doubt. Regardless of how many times each of us might have seen the film, he was there, and he put his blood, sweat and tears into his vision. How someone could somehow think they know what a film should look like over the original director is beyond me, unless they're doing some George Lucas-worthy tinkering, or like the alternative transfer William Friedkin prepared for The French Connection. The difference being, he admitted the new transfer was, well, new. As far as Spielberg is concerned, I was under the impression that he supervised the 4K scan of JP to make sure it accurately represented the original negative (if I happen to be wrong about that, do correct me).

As an example, if Leonardo da Vinci came back to life and swore up and down that his originally completed canvas for the Mona Lisa featured the titular lass with a tan, I wouldn't give two craps how many spectators have seen it in a museum and claim she's supposed to be pale.
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