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Old 05-31-2016, 04:51 PM   #13941
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Depends on how you define wrong. It certainly looks very little like it did theatrically in terms of black levels and especially color.
I wish people would stop perpetuating this nonsense that somehow now because BD exists filmmakers can finally present the 'proper' colors on their films.
Bull$#it.
The greens and cyans that congest just about every frame now are a radical departure from the warmer, more natural tones the film had in every presentation from '79 up through '99.
And far be it for people to put credence in some anonymous internet yahoo like myself. But you don't have to. Ridely is on record at the time of the '99 DVDs release as saying they timed it to look as it did theatrically. And DVD, being a digital format, was finally able to deliver rich blacks that the analogue formats came up short on. The appearance of the 99 DVD is just about perfect in terms of color and gamma. It's been tarted up like a $2 wh0re to appeal to the "teal looks more sci-fi and make sure you give my sub a workout" Blu-ray generation.

OOps- sorry just realize you were talking about the sequel, not the original. Of course, as the sequel is steered even farther afield from what it looked like theatrically than the first film. In the case of Aliens though, I don't have nearly as much intense nostalgic closeness to it. I think I only saw it once or twice theatrically where I saw the original about 7 or 8 times in the theater. I wish the sequel looked more natural to a mid 80s film, but at the same time the leap from what this film has looked like in terms of resolution is so huge, that in this instance I'll take the bad and enjoy it for what it improves.
The changes to the original make the experience just unpleasantly dissonant to me- despite the nice uptick in res and stability.
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And DVD, being a digital format, was finally able to deliver rich blacks that the analogue formats came up short on.
??? DVD will certainly not have the blacks of a film print.

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Old 05-31-2016, 04:59 PM   #13942
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LIES!!!!!
Where is all the glorious purple?!?!?!

It is an irrefutable FACT that film cannot project anything with even a hint of teal in it.
70MM refuses to project teal; hence all those perfect memories of deep purple hues of films from decades ago being completely correct.

*Caresses the DVD with gleeful care.
Gimme those sweet wondrously warm natural purple skin tones. Mmmm.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:58 PM   #13943
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Can I possibly get a rough time stamp for those two shots? This disc is a booger because it's seamlessly branched so it has about 50 files.
The face hugger is at 48:53 into the movie

Parker and Ripley is at 1:02:37

If anyone would be kind enough to share these shots off the Blu, please share them cause I would like to see them myself.

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Old 05-31-2016, 09:17 PM   #13944
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I've got tickets to see Aliens 70mm in July at The Prince Charles Cinema

Was lucky to see an original 35mm print of Alien a few years back as well before Fox took it out of circulation and replaced it with a DCP. It did have a very pink tint to it due to age
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:43 PM   #13945
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The face hugger is at 48:53 into the movie

Parker and Ripley is at 1:02:37

If anyone would be kind enough to share these shots off the Blu, please share them cause I would like to see them myself.
Okay, now I'm definitely starting to think half the forum (is that all? ) has me on ignore. Oh well. If you'd care to look just three posts above yours, you will have the answer you seek, good sir.
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:34 PM   #13946
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Okay, now I'm definitely starting to think half the forum (is that all? ) has me on ignore. Oh well. If you'd care to look just three posts above yours, you will have the answer you seek, good sir.
I don't have you on ignore...

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Old 06-01-2016, 12:52 AM   #13947
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Okay, now I'm definitely starting to think half the forum (is that all? ) has me on ignore. Oh well. If you'd care to look just three posts above yours, you will have the answer you seek, good sir.
No, no no no. What I meant was the screenshots from the run time that i have shown. Youre not on ignore. How can anyone ignore a Tom avatar
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:37 PM   #13948
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Go on then



Will cost a fortune to get there tho
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:41 PM   #13949
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Better haul along an awesome DSLR and take some nice pics.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:04 PM   #13950
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Better haul along an awesome DSLR and take some nice pics.
Good luck with that. I nearly got kicked out for taking a picture of the title screen of a 35mm print of The Abyss.

The ushers actually sit within the auditorium throughout.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:30 AM   #13951
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Good luck with that. I nearly got kicked out for taking a picture of the title screen of a 35mm print of The Abyss.

The ushers actually sit within the auditorium throughout.
Was not planning on it!
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:00 AM   #13952
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I would DIE for a movie adaptation of Alien Isolation. Man that was a fantastic experience!
Or even just a sequel, since it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:41 AM   #13953
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I was watching the making of Alien 4, and Winona talks a bit how she swipes stuff from the set.

She probably left with an alien head in the backseat of her car, and. a model of The Betty in the trunk.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:42 AM   #13954
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Go on then

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Will cost a fortune to get there tho
If I had the chance to go to that, I'd be all over it!
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:13 PM   #13955
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Does anyone know if the 4.0 mixes that are on the Alien & Aliens BD are majorly different from the 5.1 mixes?

I've only watched the BD's with the 5.1 mixes and I'm tempted to watch the films with their original 4.0 mixes.
Normal is boring
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:34 PM   #13956
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They're really not that different. But it can't hurt to try them in 4.1.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:38 PM   #13957
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If I had the chance to go to that, I'd be all over it!
It was good
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:06 AM   #13958
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Bought the original US release, day one. Have watched the discs many, many times. Nary a scratch. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's obviously not easy to scratch them. People really tend to underestimate the scratch-resistant coating applied to BD's.
I always take it from a different point of view because I know that they are really scratch resistant (but still hate these kind of risky packaging)
If I buy a brand new blu-ray and it is already scratched when I take it out for the first time, I always think, "my dear, what did you have to go through?"

I still miss this collection. Unfortunately I missed the awesome Facehugger edition. We are about to get a new worthless "Innopack" edition in Germany with only 4 disc.

I think UK 6 discs Anthology is the best choice right know even though I hate UK releases for their age restriction labels rampage and the thick cases which doesn't matter in this case because it's not a single disc version. I just noticed how lucky Germans are for having double sided printed covers when I bought my first UK Blu-rays >.<

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Old 08-16-2016, 10:10 PM   #13959
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I compared screenshots from Alien, and I (too) definitely see black crush! So disappointing.
The average bitrate is overall low as well. IMO anything under an average of 35 Mbps is too low, and it's not making use of the BD format.
It goes without saying that a disc with an avg bitrate of 26 Mbps won't look fantastic.

Anyway, a lot of debating here, but my eyes do not deceive me:
Screenshot #1
Screenshot #2

I really think Alien deserves a remaster.
I read that the most recent release is from a 4K scan. And this release wasn't?
I haven't seen comparing screens from the new release and the page for the disc here doesn't say what the average bitrate is.
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Old 08-16-2016, 10:15 PM   #13960
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I compared screenshots from Alien, and I (too) definitely see black crush! So disappointing.
The average bitrate is overall low as well. IMO anything under an average of 35 Mbps is too low, and it's not making use of the BD format.
It goes without saying that a disc with an avg bitrate of 26 Mbps won't look fantastic.
So like, 99% of BD releases are bad?
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