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Old 03-07-2014, 06:25 AM   #2401
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If that guy is to be trusted, they're spending all that time to upgrade the show merely for television and streaming? Pffft!
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:05 AM   #2402
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Aah well, Scully's season one fashion looked awful in SD anyway so at least we are spared that in HD :P
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:49 PM   #2403
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If that guy is to be trusted, they're spending all that time to upgrade the show merely for television and streaming? Pffft!
Another show which was recently upgraded to Blu-ray (Friends) ran on TV networks for a while in HD, then was released on Blu-ray. I'm pretty sure this is the route X-Files will take.

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Old 03-07-2014, 01:18 PM   #2404
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So.....

If that guy is to be trusted, they're spending all that time to upgrade the show merely for television and streaming? Pffft!
In simple terms, it's one job for the remaster and one job for a future Blu-ray release (to which work has not yet officially begun).

A release WILL happen soon, what "soon" actually means remains to be seen.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:30 PM   #2405
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Another show which was recently upgraded to Blu-ray (Friends) ran on TV networks for a while in HD, then was released on Blu-ray. I'm pretty sure this is the route X-Files will take.
Or, on the other hand, Seinfeld got a complete restoration, but still hasn't been announced for Blu.

And there's been tonnes of movies and TV shows that have been given a widescreen or HD transfer for broadcast, and then a separate transfer for a release on Blu (those that have been released). (Sopranos, anyone?)
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Or, on the other hand, Seinfeld got a complete restoration, but still hasn't been announced for Blu.

And there's been tonnes of movies and TV shows that have been given a widescreen or HD transfer for broadcast, and then a separate transfer for a release on Blu (those that have been released). (Sopranos, anyone?)
Exactly, it isn't a given, and Seinfeld is big as TV shows come. Netflix (and other VOD services) are full of HD versions of movies and TV that dont have a blu-ray version.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:02 PM   #2407
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Or, on the other hand, Seinfeld got a complete restoration, but still hasn't been announced for Blu.

And there's been tonnes of movies and TV shows that have been given a widescreen or HD transfer for broadcast, and then a separate transfer for a release on Blu (those that have been released). (Sopranos, anyone?)
Though we all know X-files will look stellar on Blu (just look at some of these HD screen-shots!), will Seinfeld look that much better on a Blu release? I'm a huge fan of the show & have the entire series on DVD, but (and correct me if I'm wrong here) the show seemed to be filmed for the most part on sets, and therefore already has a kind of washed-out quasi-documentary-style look (and I don't mean that as a criticism). I'm just not sure how much this would be improved on Blu - however, I'm not a technical expert when it comes to these issues.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:22 PM   #2408
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Or, on the other hand, Seinfeld got a complete restoration, but still hasn't been announced for Blu.
Apples and oranges. Seinfeld still generates literally hundreds of millions in syndication. It still nets among the top ratings for sitcoms on cable, and new episodes haven’t been produced in over a decade and a half… It’s a license to print money. It plays multiple times, around prime time, every single night of the week. WB worries that releasing it on Blu would potentially undercut these profits. It has generated over 3 billion dollars in syndication since the final episode aired. That is an absolutely unfathomable amount for any syndicated television show - that's territory most blockbuster Hollywood franchises can’t touch. Imagine if a studio released a film that kept topping the box office week after a week for more than a decade, they’d never pull the damn thing from theaters.

This isn't the case with the X Files; it generates, comparatively, virtually nothing in syndication. The biggest channel to air it regularly in the US is the SyFy Channel, and they play it at like 3 in the morning every 750 years. They stand to make far more profit in Blu Ray sales than syndication generates for the show. It’s in Star Trek TNG (which generates far more in syndication than the X Files does) territory. There’s no reason for them to not release it.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:34 PM   #2409
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Apples and oranges. Seinfeld still generates literally hundreds of millions in syndication. It still nets among the top ratings for sitcoms on cable, and new episodes haven’t been produced in over a decade and a half… It’s a license to print money. It plays multiple times, around prime time, every single night of the week. WB worries that releasing it on Blu would potentially undercut these profits, because as of right now the only way to see it in HD and 16X9 is on cable. It has generated over 3 billion dollars in syndication since the final episode aired. That is an absolutely unfathomable amount for any syndicated television show - that's territory most blockbuster Hollywood franchises can’t touch. Imagine if a studio released a film that kept topping the box office week after a week for more than a decade, they’d never pull the damn thing from theaters.

This isn't the case with the X Files; it generates, comparatively, virtually nothing in syndication. The biggest channel to air it regularly in the US is the SyFy Channel, and they play it at like 3 in the morning every 750 years. They stand to make far more profit in Blu Ray sales than syndication generates for the show. It’s in Star Trek TNG (which generates far more in syndication than the X Files does) territory. There’s no reason for them to not release it.
Good points re: a potential Seinfeld Blu. I remember it took forever for the show to hit regular DVD (very frustrating at the time), and the same reason was given - i.e., the show was doing very well in syndication & a DVD release would almost certainly reduce the amount of people that would watch the show on TV (especially since the DVD episodes included the entire episode, including the endings that had been edited out from the later broadcasts of the show).

Conversely, as you said, X-files is tough to catch these days (unless you have the DVD sets), and an upgrade to Blu is a no-brainer - it's very obvious the series would look much better than the regular DVD sets.

I myself have been avoiding buying X-files on the regular DVD's since I wasn't happy with the PQ, whereas in the case of Seinfeld I'm more than happy with the regular DVD's...

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Old 03-07-2014, 03:43 PM   #2410
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By god this thread is a roller coaster of emotions, I am now again excited for a blu ray release, very good points about Seinfeld
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Well if they are still working on Season 6 for broadcast, again, maybe they are waiting to have them all finished and release them as a complete box set for Blu-ray. I would rather they go this route than releasing one or two seasons a year. Hopefully the wait will be worth it!
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:41 PM   #2412
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Well if they are still working on Season 6 for broadcast, again, maybe they are waiting to have them all finished and release them as a complete box set for Blu-ray. I would rather they go this route than releasing one or two seasons a year. Hopefully the wait will be worth it!

Hoping for this too, I will shell out for each season but a complete collection on blu ray would be great, imagine all the special features too, easily this is the most anticipated blu ray release for me
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:41 PM   #2413
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I would rather have them release single $129.00 retail releases that are discounted to $79 on release day than a huge 9 season box set that retails for over $1000.00 and is discounted to $700.00
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Old 03-07-2014, 05:07 PM   #2414
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I would rather have them release single $129.00 retail releases that are discounted to $79 on release day than a huge 9 season box set that retails for over $100 and is discounted for $700.00
I'd buy maybe the first two seasons if they released them separately, as it contains most of my favourite episodes but then I'd wait for a single series release. If the full set was the only option I'm not sure how much I'd spend on it. I'd hope for something lower than 75.

As to the syndication airings versus the Blu-ray release, I think they're two separate things. More than ever with home video we have consumers that are happy to watch, record and stream content they enjoy, with very little interest in buying the physical product. They're two different consumer groups. It's only a small cross section that will watch, record, stream and buy physical media. I think studios, if they're smart will look and approach them as two different races. One a sprint and the other a marathon.
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Old 03-07-2014, 05:12 PM   #2415
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I'd buy maybe the first two seasons if they released them separately, as it contains most of my favourite episodes but then I'd wait for a single series release. If the full set was the only option I'm not sure how much I'd spend on it. I'd hope for something lower than 75.
I'd be in for 75, I paid that for Friends so it's a fair price.

I actually wouldn't want them to release individual seasons. It would cost way more than a box set.
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I may be in the minority here, but the only way I am buying X-files on Blu is:

1) In one single set with all 9 seasons included (preferably with both feature films on Blu as well, but if those aren't included I'll just get them separately)...or,

2) If the series is released as individual seasons all at one time, so I can buy them all at once - I'd prefer not to do this, but will if that's the only way I can get this.

Howver, I will not buy these if their plan is to release the series like they did with the DVD's, i.e. 1-3 seasons per year over a period of several years. If they go this route, there's a chance that the entire series won't be released on Blu - and, I don't want to buy part of the series & end up with an incomplete Blu set; this is one of the reasons I'm not buying The Sopranos on Blu...

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Old 03-07-2014, 05:25 PM   #2417
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These are not going to be as cheap as the Friends box set. They are most likely going to be in line with the pricing of the Star Trek seasons at retail of $129.00 per season. No way the entire 9 seasons gets released for under $200.
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I'd be in for 75, I paid that for Friends so it's a fair price.

I actually wouldn't want them to release individual seasons. It would cost way more than a box set.
I think Friends series is a good comparison, we don't have many 10 year run shows. LOST had six, Fringe 5 and they've been reasonably priced if you have the patience and competitively priced for the 'must-have' collector.

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These are not going to be as cheap as the Friends box set. They are most likely going to be in line with the pricing of the Star Trek seasons at retail of $129.00 per season. No way the entire 9 seasons gets released for under $200.
I think the Star Trek pricing is an anomaly. Paramount know Trek fans will pay over the going rate for season sets. But to be fair to them they've done stunning work, even if it's too expensive for some fans.
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I think Friends series is a good comparison, we don't have many 10 year run shows. LOST had six, Fringe 5 and they've been reasonably priced if you have the patience and competitively priced for the 'must-have' collector.



I think the Star Trek pricing is an anomaly. Paramount know Trek fans will pay over the going rate for season sets. But to be fair to them they've done stunning work, even if it's too expensive for some fans.
Yeah, I'm praying they don't follow the Satr Trek route in both pricing and spreading the single seasons so far apart.

Just the first three seasons of Star Trek have been priced over 100 since forever. Only rarely has it dropped below that. And 50 +/- a season for TNG/Enterprise is way too much, even for me
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I think the Star Trek pricing is an anomaly. Paramount know Trek fans will pay over the going rate for season sets. But to be fair to them they've done stunning work, even if it's too expensive for some fans.
You could be right, matey, but I'd suggest the price of the Star Trek sets also reflects the cost of the extra graphic work that was done on the enhanced versions of every episode.

If a Blu release of X-Files represents the level of enhancement and restoration work a lot of people seem to be hoping will go into it, then the Star Trek price per set might well turn out to be a good indicator for X-Files as well. And if Paramount charged what the Trekkie market would bear, then I can't see Fox underestimating the willingness of X-Philes to pay similarly through the nose.

Bummer, eh?


(P.S. I know boasting is bad form, but I got all three Star Trek seasons on Blu here in Australia for less than 20 apiece. Just sometimes the Price Gods smile on we Aussies!)

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