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Old 08-23-2015, 10:05 AM   #1301
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What is life in general if not just a series of "programmed" machines?
To me, intelligent life is biological, natural, spiritual and most of all free. In its choices, decisions, movements, expressions, ambitions, desires, opinions, cares, thoughts, and personality. I don't see how machines share any of those traits.
This really doesn't have to be the ethical discussion its become. I merely stated that I don't appreciate or share the point of view that's come across in movies and t.v., that robots and androids should be classified as life, given rights, respect and dignity as humans or even worse be classified as human. I also don't see why I should feel anything for them because of that. I was asked about why and I explained. Simple as that.
If you feel differently, it's really ok. That goes the same for anyone. I'm not trying to convince anyone to see things the way I do. These are movies after all and any discussion should only go so far. I'm always up for a friendly discussion and don't mind talking with people of differing opinions as long as it stays friendly. If we're at an impass, it's cool. We can agree to disagree. No harm done.
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I was under the illusion that Replicants were machine underneath and had programmed brains, as well as having human tissue on the surface, etc. Apparently not after some Googling, hehe, they are "grown humans" augmented for various purposes. Supposedly, something like Ash from Alien (or a Terminator) is a lot closer to what I assumed a Replicant was.
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To me, intelligent life is biological, natural, spiritual and most of all free. In its choices, decisions, movements, expressions, ambitions, desires, opinions, cares, thoughts, and personality. I don't see how machines share any of those traits.
Machines don't share those traits. Not now, anyway. But in these fictional worlds machines do share many of those traits.

And that raises interesting questions. And even if making these machines is completely impossible asking 'what if' is still a legitimate vehicle through which to raise those questions.

And as for whether it's possible, thinking machines seem a lot more plausible to me than other science fiction staples like warp drives or time travel. I think we'll come up with something very much like a Commander Data long before we come up with anything even remotely resembling a USS Enterprise.

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This really doesn't have to be the ethical discussion its become.
But the ethical discussion is often the entire point. Some works of fiction include robots simply because robots are cool. And that's perfectly fine. But other works of fiction - like the ones we've been discussing here - use artificially created life forms as an allegorical tool to raise all manner of ethical questions. And that can be pretty cool too.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:15 AM   #1305
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For the last 10 or so years, it seems like 90% of jokes in comedies are references to other movies/tv shows/famous people.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:16 AM   #1306
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For the last 10 or so years, it seems like 90% of jokes in comedies are references to other movies/tv shows/famous people.
What movies are you watching? Only ones I see do that. Are those horrible movie movies as I like to call them.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:14 AM   #1307
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For the last 10 or so years, it seems like 90% of jokes in comedies are references to other movies/tv shows/famous people.
I also believe it causes a film to be terribly dated, even within a few years, especially if said references to celebrities and TV shows, etc, fade from the public consciousness. I've always considered the medium of film to be the top rung of entertainment. Films, even those small in scale and less ambitious, should have an element of timelessness (even those tackling a particular era). When zietgeisty pop-cultural references that will be irrelevant to people in 6 months are included I actually think it dims the lustre and uniqueness of film as an artform. Leave that kind of stuff to TV. And I certainly would never class myself as a film snob; I'm an Indiana Jones / James Bond / Terminator type of guy.
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Freeze frames at the end of the movie. i.e. Taking of Pelham 1 2 3
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The fact that alcohol is so readily available to teenagers in movies and television. They seem to have zero problem getting it or even going and sitting at bars and getting served. Scream the tv series is one of the new culprits of this showing one of the girls who clearly looked no more than 17 just sitting at a bar drinking with no questions asked...um OK!
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The fact that alcohol is so readily available to teenagers in movies and television. They seem to have zero problem getting it or even going and sitting at bars and getting served. Scream the tv series is one of the new culprits of this showing one of the girls who clearly looked no more than 17 just sitting at a bar drinking with no questions asked...um OK!
Your post reminded me of this lol


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When a movie cuts to "security footage" from an earlier scene...which is just the exact same footage we already saw, right down to the specific edits and camera moves! See You Only Live Twice for a good example.

Also, where is the footage when Bond makes his "drop in the ocean" quip being filmed from? Was there another helicopter filming just to show Bond what was happening to the pursuit car?
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Really tired of of scenes taking place with an opera in the background
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Really tired of of scenes taking place with an opera in the background
I imagine there's a big incentive to shooting in a place with big fancy architecture and getting your cast and extras all dressed up in black tie.

But it is kind of weird how much of everything is set at the opera.
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Freeze frames at the end of the movie. i.e. Taking of Pelham 1 2 3
The freeze frame at the end of Rocky was perfect.
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What movies are you watching? Only ones I see do that. Are those horrible movie movies as I like to call them.
Those "From the Producers of Scary movie" movies where the only thing about the movie that is a parody is the fact these characters are sharing a screen together.
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When a movie cuts to "security footage" from an earlier scene...which is just the exact same footage we already saw, right down to the specific edits and camera moves! See You Only Live Twice for a good example.

Also, where is the footage when Bond makes his "drop in the ocean" quip being filmed from? Was there another helicopter filming just to show Bond what was happening to the pursuit car?
It was a high tech Japanese spy satellite.
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When the last drop of water has been coaxed from a canteen by a character wandering through an arid landscape, and he just tosses it aside. Hey, when you do locate some water, that might come in handy, eh?
Saw this again in The Scorch Trials last week. Think you're gonna carry any water you do find in your pants pocket, or your hands?
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Actors getting hit by something then getting thrown back at a ridiculous speed and force, which is suppose to evoke comedy.

I cringe every time I see it. Embarrassing.
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Actors getting hit by something then getting thrown back at a ridiculous speed and force, which is suppose to evoke comedy.

I cringe every time I see it. Embarrassing.
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