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Old 11-19-2017, 01:13 AM   #21
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Anyone have information or reviews on the Sharp 55in 4K class smart tv that Walmart will have on Black Friday for $298... planning on this t.v
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:27 AM   #22
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Anyone have information or reviews on the Sharp 55in 4K class smart tv that Walmart will have on Black Friday for $298... planning on this t.v
This review http://www.product-reviews.net/2017/...th-specs-list/ says it's HDR but not HDR10 (so it's not really full HDR, and I doubted it would be for that price).
It's prob just an 8-bit panel (really just my hunch). Model # is 55p6000u.

1080p should look good, but trying to play a 4k disc will with strip HDR will likely look too dark or have washed out colors, and be frustrating.
I'm just trying to say it won't give the same result as TV's for as low as $799 or $999 with full HDR10 will.
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:33 AM   #23
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This review http://www.product-reviews.net/2017/...th-specs-list/ says it's HDR but not HDR10 (so it's not really full HDR, and I doubted it would be for that price).
It's prob just an 8-bit panel (really just my hunch). Model # is 55p6000u.

1080p should look good, but trying to play a 4k disc will with strip HDR will likely look too dark or have washed out colors, and be frustrating.
I'm just trying to say it won't give the same result as TV's for as low as $799 or $999 with full HDR10 will.
Even with it being a lil dark washed out colors for a 4Ktv it should still look good tho?...for that price...and colors/darkness and such can be adjusted to help? My point is it may not be FULL HDR10 but it’ll still be there and display 4K imaging pretty good just not 100% like a more pricy 4K display?
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:00 AM   #24
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Even with it being a lil dark washed out colors for a 4Ktv it should still look good tho?...for that price...and colors/darkness and such can be adjusted to help? My point is it may not be FULL HDR10 but it’ll still be there and display 4K imaging pretty good just not 100% like a more pricy 4K display?
I'd be wary of it, as it's one of the made just for the holiday models which are generally really iffy as i mentioned in previous posts. I've noticed over the years, they just use inferior parts that won't last as long, and in some cases, are literally rejected panels that didn't meet quality control so are given their own model # for a BF/holiday special model. This Sharp your looking at for instance say it uses 170 watts, which is REALLY high for a modern 55 inch tv. which says they went really cheap on power supply and components.

As to if it will look good, without seeing it of course, but off reading the specs, yeah it should look decent....for a $300 TV.The fact they are calling it HDR capable, but isn't even able to handle the weakest of HDR offerings(HDR10) is a big red flag to me though. I too would guess it's an 8 bit panel that has overblown saturation levels to mimic HDR. Think of it like taking a TV from a few years ago, adding 4k resolution and jacking color saturation up to max, that's my assumption at least. And there won't be much you can really do by adjusting the TV's settings to improve it, as it just won't be capable of reproducing what true wide gamut panels can do.

If it's the 4k part that your really after, i'd posit this. at 55 inches, 4k isn't even gonna be that noticeable unless your viewing it from 6-8ft away. So take that into account on your purchase. I've got a 65 inch at 8 feet and definitely notice the difference but at 55 inch, i doubt i really would see much improvement. Which is why i haven't upgraded my 55 inch bedroom TV yet to 4k as it sits 10ft away. measure distance your TV Will be in your house to couch, chair, bed etc. Then go to a store and measure same distance from any 4k 55 incher. See if it's a big improvement to you or not when deciding. my mother got a 50 inch 4k tv, and it sits 14 feet from her recliner. Literally can't tell the difference in resolution AT ALL.

Last, in my view at least, the 4k resolution aspect, is at best 25% of the UHD equation. 50% being the wide gamut 10 bit panel, 25% being HDR. I see so many people going 4k and not even thinking about the other aspects of UHD besides resolution when it should be the other way around.

If your looking for a cheap 4k tv, i'd honestly skip this, and get a 55 inch TCL brand tv with true HDR. on sale they can be had for as little as $350-450 too. Best buy had the TCL 405 model(HDR10 but not Dolby vision) for $399 just last month on sale. Black Friday really isn't the end all time to buy TV's people think it is. Certain models it can be, but overall, deals just as good are generally found year round now if you hunt for em. heck, if i had waited to get my 65 inch C7 until BF this year, i'd still be paying $250 more for it than i did on a frys doorbuster deal back in July.
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:41 PM   #25
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Best Buy has this model for $279...what are the reviews for toshiba?...my only concern is actually getting my hands on one being that people camp out at Best Buy...this says the sale goes on at 8am Friday...but with Walmart I’m more so guaranteed i think quantity wise...
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:00 PM   #26
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Best Buy is selling the Sony 55" 900E model for $999 on Black Friday, which is a very good price. The TV features full array local dimming, HDR 10, a solid smart TV menu and is GREAT for BOTH watching HDR movies AND playing HDR video games.

B&HPhotoVideo have it for $998 right now with free shipping and no tax outside of New York and New Jersey.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:01 PM   #27
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That's Sony's sanctioned "Black Friday" promotional price for all authorized dealers. So choose your favorite retailer and start enjoying this excellent UHD/HDR TV at the lowest price of the year.
I'm hoping there's a good deal on the x930e come Super Bowl time! Otherwise I'd jump on this one
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Old 11-19-2017, 10:34 PM   #28
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65" X930E is down $500 today through December 2, 2017. So the Black Friday price for Sony's XBR-65X930E is $1999.
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The tcl 405 55 inch with hdr10 capability is on slickdeals front page for only $305. Anyone wanting to spend sub $400 on a 4k hdr tv this black friday that's ganna be pretty much the best value and far better than that sharp tv is for basically same price
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I'm seriously considering getting the 55" Sony 900e for my first 4K HDR setup. It's only $999.

I've been exploring all of the other options like the LG B7 or C7 and the Sony 930e to see what is the best choice. I'm not sure I can justify the additional perks of these sets for the $500+ price increase. (OLEDs have their downsides, especially for someone who sometimes games for hours on end).

The Sony 900e seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance this year. Especially for gamers like me. Does anyone have any other opinions on this subject?
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I'm seriously considering getting the 55" Sony 900e for my first 4K HDR setup. It's only $999.

I've been exploring all of the other options like the LG B7 or C7 and the Sony 930e to see what is the best choice. I'm not sure I can justify the additional perks of these sets for the $500+ price increase. (OLEDs have their downsides, especially for someone who sometimes games for hours on end).

The Sony 900e seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance this year. Especially for gamers like me. Does anyone have any other opinions on this subject?
That 900e is a fine looking tv, if you primarly game with it, that's likely your best option. Ive been contemplating getting it for my bedroom tv so i don't have to worry about leaving it on if i fall asleep like i do my oled in fam room. That said, if budget permits i still can't get over how good my c7 looks, even after 5 months of it, everytime i fire it up it blows me away like i just got it that day. Watching punisher final episode on netflix as i type this and 4k dolby vision is pretty much nirvana on it.
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Other than an OLED TV in the 55" class, Sony's X900E delivers the best picture quality.

The under $1k price is the best price of the year.
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Quick question for those who have seen the LG B7 and the Sony 930E side by side, which one would you pick for best overall HDR image quality? Am tempted to get one of them right now but need help on deciding which one, will be used mainly as a gaming monitor (to replace my Sony 850C for PC, X1X and PS4 Pro usage) but will watch movies on it as well.

Or should I just wait for CES and see what sort of upgrades, if any, the 2018 OLEDs and LCDs will be getting?
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Quick question for those who have seen the LG B7 and the Sony 930E side by side, which one would you pick for best overall HDR image quality? Am tempted to get one of them right now but need help on deciding which one, will be used mainly as a gaming monitor (to replace my Sony 850C for PC, X1X and PS4 Pro usage) but will watch movies on it as well.

Or should I just wait for CES and see what sort of upgrades, if any, the 2018 OLEDs and LCDs will be getting?
Have seen em both nearly side by side(one away) from each other at a local Frys. and I own the C7(same panel as B7a) and it's not even a comparison as to which has better image/HDR image quality. OLED just kills LED on both fronts. That said, the 930 looked REALLY good too. And if your primary use of it will be gaming, i'd suggest the LED unless your willing to be careful with the OLED(e.g. don't run a game with a HUD for 8 hours nonstop)
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I pulled the trigger on the 65 X900E today. Its slightly over my budget but Im replacing a 2011 Hisense 42 piece of shit. Whats a great UHD disc to try first?
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Have seen em both nearly side by side(one away) from each other at a local Frys. and I own the C7(same panel as B7a) and it's not even a comparison as to which has better image/HDR image quality. OLED just kills LED on both fronts. That said, the 930 looked REALLY good too. And if your primary use of it will be gaming, i'd suggest the LED unless your willing to be careful with the OLED(e.g. don't run a game with a HUD for 8 hours nonstop)
Nice, may go for the B7 then. I'll be careful (will hide taskbar, desktop icons, enable screensaver, etc.) and my time for gaming is short these days mostly 30min-1 hour bursts here and there. And good to know the B7 and C7 use the same panel, the only difference seems to come down to just the stand and the bezel if am not mistaken.
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I pulled the trigger on the 65” X900E today. It’s slightly over my budget but I’m replacing a 2011 Hisense 42” piece of shit. What’s a great UHD disc to try first?
A lot to choose from but I'd go with John Wick 2. Enjoy the new telly.
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Nice, may go for the B7 then. I'll be careful (will hide taskbar, desktop icons, enable screensaver, etc.) and my time for gaming is short these days mostly 30min-1 hour bursts here and there. And good to know the B7 and C7 use the same panel, the only difference seems to come down to just the stand and the bezel if am not mistaken.
Atmos speakers, the bezel and the stand are literally only difference. I woulda gotten the b7a if it was out when i did. Though the c7 stand is pretty darn sexy. With your described gaming habits an oled should be zero issue at all.
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I'm seriously considering getting the 55" Sony 900e for my first 4K HDR setup. It's only $999.

I've been exploring all of the other options like the LG B7 or C7 and the Sony 930e to see what is the best choice. I'm not sure I can justify the additional perks of these sets for the $500+ price increase. (OLEDs have their downsides, especially for someone who sometimes games for hours on end).

The Sony 900e seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance this year. Especially for gamers like me. Does anyone have any other opinions on this subject?
I had for a month the equivalent to the 900e in 55", It is an excellent TV for the money. I ended up changing it for the equivalent to the 930e 65" It was a BIG difference in price but I am happy with the change this is a lot brighter, sound is better and while at first glance it may not be noticeable in the shop once I got it home the colours are better too. It seems the extreme processor does what it says it does and colours are handle with more precision.

What lot of people would like is that it has Dolby Vision pending firmware update, the 900e doesn't.

OLED have beautiful blacks and colours, I did consider them but their negatives put me off.

If possible to go bigger than 55" do because while you'll notice the difference between 4k and 1080 on a 55" you will only start get much more enjoyment out of the difference on bigger screens.
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I am planning to get my first 4K TV, but was wondering what models seem to be the best between 50 - 60 inch screen size. I am hoping to spend less than 1500, but just wondering which models I should start looking at in my search. I do prefer Samsung and Sony.
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