Boogie Nights 12-15-09

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

The whole mention of Holmes as another porn star in Boogie Nights makes it not about him. Not denying he was the story it's based on, but they made a fictional character instead of going the biography route.

The same way as for The Rose, and many others biopics. The movie: The Rose was allegedly based on the life of Janis Joplin. Everybody knows Boogie Nights, and The Rose, were based on actual people, because they're too coincidental, but their names were changed for protection.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Jr

Let's see... Dirk's family was from Torrance. Holmes was from Ohio. Holmes entered the Army at 17. Dirk did not. Holmes had a half-brother. Dirk did not. Holmes worked as an ambulance driver and got married before ever entering porn. Dirk did not.

Refresh my mind again as to how that's like Holmes' story at all? Only a few influences and of course the Johhny Wadd films were "borrowed" for Boogie Nights. But, since you can't read or comprehend, it was not a biography of John Holmes. Period. And it never claimed to be,

And yes, I have a clue, I just proved it to you.

Events, names and places, are often changed, when films are made, when based on actual people, to protect the filmmakers against legal action, and lawsuits that may occur from the real people who're involved in the story.

[42041]

For those who struggle with the obvious: filmmakers often use real-life events and people as a springboard for their own fictional stories. They don't necessarily have much interest in a factual depiction of whatever their inspiration is, because it's, you know, art. This is one of those films, so is The Master, so is There Will Be Blood.

[Sherlock_Jr]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Events, names and places, are often changed, when films are made, when based on actual people, to protect the filmmakers against legal action, and lawsuits that may occur from the real people who're involved in the story.

Yet Wonderland used Holmes' name, along with many other characters, because, you know, that one was actually about him.

It's not rocket science to figure it out.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Events, names and places, are often changed, when films are made, when based on actual people, to protect the filmmakers against legal action, and lawsuits that may occur from the real people who're involved in the story.

What about appearance? Are liberties ever taken with appearance when films are based on actual people?

[HeavyHitter]

Is there a source where it says Dirk Diggler represented John Holmes? I certainly never heard it before. To me, the Dirk Diggler character merely represented an embodiment of a younger 1970s male who gets into that industry and lifestyle while facing the consequences of it - same goes for many of the other characters.

[MifuneFan]

Please take my advice and don't get into a debate with slimdude. His domain is where common sense goes to die.

[dramsatx]

I don't know if IMDB is a valued source but it says, in this link, Diggler was loosely based on Holmes http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118749/trivia

[octagon]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Please take my advice and don't get into a debate with slimdude. His domain is where common sense goes to die.

It's like driving past an accident. You don't wanna look, you tell yourself this time absolutely no way you're going to look and then, well...

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by dramsatx

I don't know if IMDB is a valued source but it says, in this link, Diggler was loosely based on Holmes http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118749/trivia

lol they offered Dirk to Vincent Gallo?