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Old 01-06-2015, 03:11 PM   #2981
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... Can't really complain about no sam leaving for the grey havens as that was only in the appendix of LotR. The end of Return of the King was pretty accurate considering it was the final line of the book.
Accurate? With no Scouring of The Shire? It's an essential part of the story - depicting how the Hobbits were changed.
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Old 01-06-2015, 03:45 PM   #2982
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Accurate? With no Scouring of The Shire? It's an essential part of the story - depicting how the Hobbits were changed.
I meant the final line of the movie, the very final scene of the movie was the same as the book.:P

I was not talking about the scouring of the shire, although I see why the filmmakers cut it, as much as I would have liked to seen it depicted.

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Old 01-06-2015, 04:20 PM   #2983
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They still used Sauramon being killed by Grima.
I don't understand why they just didn't use it in the Scouring, instead of moving it to The Two Towers.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:42 PM   #2984
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Surprised to see this thread active, but I'll go ahead and comment.

Saruman dies in RotK Extended.
Sam not leaving for the Grey Havens is perfectly fine for a film adaptation of the trilogy.
Tom Bombadil and the Scouring were not needed in the adaptation either. Tom Bombadil because he makes no meaningful difference to the story arc. Scouring because it would have hurt the pacing of the last film and wasn't really going to add much to the story being depicted anyway. Sorry, but film just doesn't work like a book, and after defeating Sauron having to clean up Grima and Saruman would have been anticlimactic and kinda' boring in comparison. Riding out the high of killing Sauron and destroying the Ring and sailing off into the sunset was absolutely the right decision here (despite all the bad decisions made in the Hobbit trilogy).

The Extended Editions for the Hobbit trilogy have so far been better than the theatrical cuts, Desolation of Smaug especially. Battle of the Five Armies is guaranteed to be better because the theatrical cut is a complete mess.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:49 PM   #2985
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I thoroughly enjoyed the third movie and thought it was better than the first two (unpopular opinion i know :P) i decided to get the first two movies extended editions as i would now want to own the collection.

I really enjoyed An unexpected journey in its extended version. I felt that the extended scenes really helped lighten the tone of the movie and funnily enough helped the pacing. i particularly enjoyed the great goblin singing down in goblin town.

Smaug is another story for me. I believe it is the weakest of the three movies as it is mostly filler. The beginning is absolutely great. The mirkwood scenes have been improved significantly in the extended cut, but once the movie hits laketown, it really loses its way. Thank goodness for the excellent bilbo/smaug confrontation that really wakes the movie up, and the scenes with thrain/gandalf are interesting and cut well with the approach to erebor. i still have issues with the foundry dragon action scene, but overall i found the extended edition to be better than the theatrical.There are still issues with the movie as a whole, especially the addition of the politics of laketown, however the extended cut is worthwhile.
+1 to everything quoted above

Battle of the Five Armies is my favorite of the bunch. Not sure why all the bad reviews. It sends off the trilogy in grand fashion and makes up for a lot of the bungles in DoS (the whole lighting of the forges and golden dwarf statue is the stupidest sequence in all of Jackson's Middle Earth). It also ties in LotR trilogy nicely.

Can't wait to get the whole Hobbit extended trilogy in HFR 4K 3D Blu-ray!
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:12 PM   #2986
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I thought it was the best too, in fact I think it made the first two better.
Please read the OP of the thread before posting.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:17 PM   #2987
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+1 to everything quoted above

Battle of the Five Armies is my favorite of the bunch. Not sure why all the bad reviews. It sends off the trilogy in grand fashion and makes up for a lot of the bungles in DoS (the whole lighting of the forges and golden dwarf statue is the stupidest sequence in all of Jackson's Middle Earth). It also ties in LotR trilogy nicely.

Can't wait to get the whole Hobbit extended trilogy in HFR 4K 3D Blu-ray!
Just don't expect more then 2k resolution.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:57 PM   #2988
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They still used Sauramon being killed by Grima.
I don't understand why they just didn't use it in the Scouring, instead of moving it to The Two Towers.
You don't understand why they didn't add another storyline and climactic confrontation on top of the fifty endings everyone was already complaining about? Really?
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:37 PM   #2989
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there's no way in HELL i could!!! i've already watched The Hobbit more than a dozen times!!
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Old 01-14-2015, 05:50 PM   #2990
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You don't understand why they didn't add another storyline and climactic confrontation on top of the fifty endings everyone was already complaining about? Really?
The people complaining about no Scouring of the Shire are the same people complaining that The Hobbit was made into 3 films.

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The people complaining about no Scouring of the Shire are the same people complaining that The Hobbit was made into 3 films.
You can't win.
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You don't understand why they didn't add another storyline and climactic confrontation on top of the fifty endings everyone was already complaining about? Really?
Not only is that not true, it's a cheap shot, Homer. The Scouring of the Shire could've been handled in a 5-or-so minute "afterword" and all of the added "creative" extras bloated the whole deal a lot more than that. Furthermore, a happy "wrap up" ending wouldn't have hurt the big battle ending any more than it did in the book - not if it was well-written. Really, guys, you have to live with the fact that some people have different ideas. It's no big deal - you have a right to yours and vice-versa. That's why it's a movie discussion site - or at least it's supposed to be.
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