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Old 04-05-2014, 12:07 AM   #1661
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Ok, well there you have it. I really did not remember that, but wanted to ask, because unlike some peoples infallible memory, I don't alway remember every detail of a viewing I had 5 or 6 or 15 years ago.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:08 AM   #1662
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I'm finally getting around to watching my Blu of this and I noticed something near the beginning that I need an opinion about.

In the pre-credit sequence, where Mr. Machen (John Houseman) is telling the ghost story, it moves from a wide shot to a close up. On the blu, it plays as a speed ramp instead of a straight , which I don't remember from previous viewings (though it has been a while). This seems like an error. Can anyone confirm that their copy also has this issue (I'm sure all of them must) and does anyone remember this being present in the DVD?
That moment has always been that way. I saw it on its original theatrical release a couple of times, and I was immediately impressed by that little moment as it was quite effective.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:28 AM   #1663
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That moment has always been that way. I saw it on its original theatrical release a couple of times, and I was immediately impressed by that little moment as it was quite effective.
I love this sudden camera movement, because it happens exactly when he says "suddenly" haha.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:04 AM   #1664
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Ok, well there you have it. I really did not remember that, but wanted to ask, because unlike some peoples infallible memory, I don't alway remember every detail of a viewing I had 5 or 6 or 15 years ago.
WHAT! You DON'T have an infallible memory? You are clearly on the wrong site!
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:07 AM   #1665
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WHAT! You DON'T have an infallible memory? You are clearly on the wrong site!
Lol. I know, right? I understand if you saw a movie and something particularly stuck out to you that you MAY remember it some time later, but all the people who swear they remember color timings and deleted scenes only they seem to remember just kill me.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:32 AM   #1666
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Lol. I know, right? I understand if you saw a movie and something particularly stuck out to you that you MAY remember it some time later, but all the people who swear they remember color timings and deleted scenes only they seem to remember just kill me.
There are people like that. Even in life there are those who have a memory for certain things that transpire, or are able to remember little things that pass by others. Like those who can measure without spoons or cups for baking. Taste buds so acute they can break down ingredients in food, or sense of smell that does the same. With film I believe it is those who have a unique eye or photographic memory for a shot, or engaged sense for color. Usually this is a trait in a good artist. For art or film, knowing or not, this is a talent not always possible to develop, but inherent. I've been fortunate to have met a few and they are remarkable, blessed. It's like the masters of music, not pop trash, but those masters who rise above us all. There used to be more in the film industry - before people started going to college and confused real talent with a degree. There are also whacks out there, fan-boys, who profess just too much and blinded by their own "passion" and lose a sense of reality - which makes it for difficult for those who really can. Remember, this is why Hitchcock knew exactly what and how much to film with little or no extra footage. He had it prefigured, and edited within his mind before even a single foot was shot - unlike Cameron who couldn't prefigure from the written word to film to save his life.
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:04 PM   #1667
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I think the only really disappointing looking scene was this one:

Optimum blu:


Scream! blu:


In fact, a lot of those screen cap comparisons on DVD Beaver make it look like the Scream! disc is anemic... but it plays out a lot better when watching it on the HDTV. Same thing with the zombie reveal shown above. While I think I still like the vivid colors and deep blacks on the Studio Canal release (despite the upscaleness), the Scream! cap makes sense in context as the entire scene is shrouded in fog.

As far as the whole "You see that tree over there? Well I remember when it used to be an acorn!" bit? Well.. people do have things called memories, and while they may not be able to remember an entire film (and it's color timing, editing, etc), there will most definitely be things or moments that lock into our minds (I still vividly remember the opening to STAR WARS and seeing the Blockade Runner and Star Destroyer going overhead for the very first time). So when people start raising a questioning finger towards the teal shift (yes, there is a difference between blue lighting and digital teal recolor timing) of THIEF and THE TERMINATOR, it's probably because such things would have been bluntly noticeable when viewed in theaters back in 1980 and 1984.

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Old 04-10-2014, 10:10 PM   #1668
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I watched this originally on my 65" Panasonic VT60 and thought it looked at least decent.

However, last night I watched it on my JVC front projector at 108" wide 2:35 screen from about 9.5 to 10 feet back and the image kind of fell apart.

It was almost like watching a DVD. It was very soft almost having a very slight blurred effect. The grain was very heavy, of course, but that wasn't the biggest issue. It was just lack of detail and over softness.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:20 AM   #1669
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That's partly why I was moaning so much when I first got it. It's extremely soft and smudgy and lacking in detail, and the edge halos don't help either. I can only make so many excuses for anamorphic photography; I'm willing to defend its honour for a 50-year-old show like Great Escape, but I just can't do it for The Fog because there are external factors at play, chief of them being the use of a very tired positive element which is faded, scratched and dirty.

Carpenter's prior films like Halloween and Precinct 13 look stunning on Blu-ray because they've been mastered from the negative up. This was not the case for The Fog. Shout! did the best they could with piss-poor materials, but the definitive home video presentation is still out there, waiting for someone to pick up the tab...
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That's partly why I was moaning so much when I first got it. It's extremely soft and smudgy and lacking in detail, and the edge halos don't help either. I can only make so many excuses for anamorphic photography; I'm willing to defend its honour for a 50-year-old show like Great Escape, but I just can't do it for The Fog because there are external factors at play, chief of them being the use of a very tired positive element which is faded, scratched and dirty.

Carpenter's prior films like Halloween and Precinct 13 look stunning on Blu-ray because they've been mastered from the negative up. This was not the case for The Fog. Shout! did the best they could with piss-poor materials, but the definitive home video presentation is still out there, waiting for someone to pick up the tab...
I agree, but it does look noticeable better than the U.K. Optimum disc so that's something.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:34 AM   #1671
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I agree, but it does look noticeable better than the U.K. Optimum disc so that's something.
Absotruthly. Even though it looks like a haggard old transfer dredged up from the vaults, it's STILL markedly better than the Optimum.
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Mr. Machen: 11:55, almost midnight. Enough time for one more story. One more story before 12:00, just to keep us warm. In five minutes, it will be the 21st of April. One hundred years ago on the 21st of April, out in the waters around Spivey Point, a small clipper ship drew toward land. Suddenly, out of the night, the fog rolled in. For a moment, they could see nothing, not a foot in front of them. Then, they saw a light. By God, it was a fire burning on the shore, strong enough to penetrate the swirling mist. They steered a course toward the light. But it was a campfire, like this one. The ship crashed against the rocks, the hull sheared in two, mars snapped like a twig. The wreckage sank, with all the men aboard. At the bottom of the sea, lay the Elizabeth Dane, with her crew, their lungs filled with salt water, their eyes open, staring to the darkness. And above, as suddenly as it come, the fog lifted, receded back across the ocean and never came again. But it is told by the fishermen, and their fathers and grandfathers, that when the fog returns to Antonio Bay, the men at the bottom of the sea, out in the water by Spivey Point will rise up and search for the campfire that led them to their dark, icy death.

[bells ring distantly]

Mr. Machen: 12:00, the 21st of April.

I knew the date was coming up, but I haven't watched this in around 10 years. Rather than just watch the opening to find the date, I had an hour and half this morning so I finally cracked open my blu. I really enjoyed it and forgot how scary it was, I would say more so than Halloween. Well, not jump out of my seat scary, but creepy.

Just thought I would give everyone the heads up if you are looking for a reason to spin this disc, throw it on over the weekend, or tomorrow night at midnight!
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