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Old 09-13-2014, 07:49 PM   #2541
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Yes, I'm very glad that they remastered the 7.1 from the original elements, rather than just trying to up-convert from the previous stereo surround. I simply would have preferred that the English Stereo 2.0 track have been the original 2.0 surround mix rather than a mix-down of the new 7.1.

On Night Terrors from 19:32 to 20:05 note that Riker twice looks back toward the camera. You can hear Riker's footsteps and the music. On the foreign language tracks only, there are creaks to which Riker is reacting that are not present on either of the English language tracks. Apparently this subtle audio element was missed in the 7.1 master, which was then down mixed to create the English Stereo 2.0. This suggests that the foreign language tracks are from the original broadcast master, and the English Stereo 2.0 is not. I believe the DVD audio track for Night Terrors includes the creaks.
I did hear something with the headphones, very soft, not the same sound, but, just because the foreign audio tracks has this audio element, does not necessarily mean the English 2.0 audio track is a mix down from the 7.1 track. It's supposed to be from the original broadcast master. The foreign audio is Monophonic, and I noticed the sound effects vary in how they sound for each language, not sure why that is.

You may have found an error that was unintentional, perhaps from the english audio masters, I have also noticed sometimes that the communicator or tricorder sounds seem to be missing, but, if I turn it up louder, they are there, but kind of soft, (7.1), I'll have to check the other audio tracks next time I notice this.
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Old 09-28-2014, 05:05 AM   #2542
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On Night Terrors from 19:32 to 20:05 note that Riker twice looks back toward the camera. You can hear Riker's footsteps and the music. On the foreign language tracks only, there are creaks to which Riker is reacting that are not present on either of the English language tracks. Apparently this subtle audio element was missed in the 7.1 master, which was then down mixed to create the English Stereo 2.0. This suggests that the foreign language tracks are from the original broadcast master, and the English Stereo 2.0 is not. I believe the DVD audio track for Night Terrors includes the creaks.
I was watching this episode again, I think you caught an error, not sure if it was newly made or if they went by some master that had this error, whether that be the original broadcast master or DVD master. I think this would have been caught if season 4 had been done by CBS instead of outsourced.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:07 AM   #2543
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I know some people said there were some glitches on this set how do I tell if mine has it?
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I know some people said there were some glitches on this set how do I tell if mine has it?
Fixed version has a yellow UPC code.
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Old 11-23-2014, 04:47 PM   #2545
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Now just $20 for the whole first season at amzn. What a steal! +++ If you were waiting until this got crazy-cheap, now's your time....
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:43 PM   #2546
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YEEEEEES! I just pulled the trigger and clicked on ORDER NOW as son as I saw that price. Grab while it's low, it isn't going to stay that way.
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:52 PM   #2547
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YEEEEEES! I just pulled the trigger and clicked on ORDER NOW as son as I saw that price. Grab while it's low, it isn't going to stay that way.
The other seasons are priced great as well right now. Just pulled the trigger on Seasons 1-6. Grand total was $175.21 which comes out to $29.20 a season.
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The other seasons are priced great as well right now. Just pulled the trigger on Seasons 1-6. Grand total was $175.21 which comes out to $29.20 a season.
Season 3 dropped in price, did you get it for the cheaper 26.xx price or for 31.xx?
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Old 11-24-2014, 02:33 AM   #2549
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Season 3 dropped in price, did you get it for the cheaper 26.xx price or for 31.xx?
Yes. Well for $27.26 anyway.
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Yes. Well for $27.26 anyway.
This is why I hate amazon. they change the prices way too often and way too fast
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On Night Terrors from 19:32 to 20:05 note that Riker twice looks back toward the camera. You can hear Riker's footsteps and the music. On the foreign language tracks only, there are creaks to which Riker is reacting that are not present on either of the English language tracks. Apparently this subtle audio element was missed in the 7.1 master, which was then down mixed to create the English Stereo 2.0. This suggests that the foreign language tracks are from the original broadcast master, and the English Stereo 2.0 is not. I believe the DVD audio track for Night Terrors includes the creaks.
I decided to watch on netflix & the blu-ray, as netflix still has the same low quality as the DVDs...you are correct, the old netflix version has the sounds, as do the foreign language tracks (I only checked one), the English stereo 2.0 does indeed seem to be down mixed from the 7.1 master instead of from the original broadcast. It's too bad they missed this, the scene would not make sense if someone were seeing it for the first time. It's hard to imagine how they missed this. I would also be interested in finding out what happened to using the original broadcast master for the 2.0 audio. Perhaps they found that they couldn't use it directly as they were taking all the various original parts and putting them together again essentially creating a new master (edit) for HD, thus the sound might not line up exactly the same way. To use the original broadcast sound mix for the re-edited master, in my mind, would seem to be more of a challenge to align to the new edit than to just down mix the new audio.

(FYI, the episode we are referring to is from disc 4 of season 4)
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Fixed version has a yellow UPC code.
Just got my used copy from GoHastings. It doesn't have the yellow UPC, but it has red Starfleet symbols on the spine and both sides of the slip, plus a Starfleet symbol next to "Disc One", etc. on each disc; posts on the page before claim those are also fixed. Is that correct?
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Just got my used copy from GoHastings. It doesn't have the yellow UPC, but it has red Starfleet symbols on the spine and both sides of the slip, plus a Starfleet symbol next to "Disc One", etc. on each disc; posts on the page before claim those are also fixed. Is that correct?
As long as the logo is on the discs you're good to go.
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I decided to watch on netflix & the blu-ray, as netflix still has the same low quality as the DVDs...you are correct, the old netflix version has the sounds, as do the foreign language tracks (I only checked one), the English stereo 2.0 does indeed seem to be down mixed from the 7.1 master instead of from the original broadcast. It's too bad they missed this, the scene would not make sense if someone were seeing it for the first time. It's hard to imagine how they missed this. I would also be interested in finding out what happened to using the original broadcast master for the 2.0 audio. Perhaps they found that they couldn't use it directly as they were taking all the various original parts and putting them together again essentially creating a new master (edit) for HD, thus the sound might not line up exactly the same way. To use the original broadcast sound mix for the re-edited master, in my mind, would seem to be more of a challenge to align to the new edit than to just down mix the new audio.

(FYI, the episode we are referring to is from disc 4 of season 4)
now that Netflix is streaming the new streaming HD version CBS has taken from the BD masters, looks like this is fixed, along with a few other things: http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/08/net...rek-tng-in-hd/
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:47 PM   #2555
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Interesting tidbit in the updated article about how the season one replacement program cost CBS a shedload of money, that probably didn't help with their final assessment of the sales performance of the TNG BDs in general.

edit: And I see Kaine is spreading his FUD on there just as he is on Shout's facebook page about Hackers. Jeez, and you people think I'm a whinger...

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